Bertboxer's (premature) Study of Thresh

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RIP Bankplank

Senior Member

01-20-2013

Hello everyone! I'm Bertboxer and I'll be doing this little series in the champion feedback forum. I'll be looking more in depth at some of the things that League of Legends design does well (and other aspects that aren't quite up to snuff). I have my eye on the associate gameplay analyst position at Riot and I'm hoping some of these prove beneficial. If this is your thing, pull up a chair and enjoy!

I know I've been away for a while but now I'm back and ready to enlighten the masses. I'm also aware that Thresh has not yet been released but this is a champion that I find very very interesting and would love to talk about him a bit. I haven't been following the forums over the past couple of weeks so forgive me if I repeat what some of the talking heads have already brought up.

I've been a Dungeons and Dragons player for about a decade now. My adventuring party has gone through many changes over the years and several editions of the game but it's always felt a bit like home. When the 4th edition of DnD was released back in 2008, there was a new base class addition called the Warlord that really struck my eye.

This class was meant to be a combat leader of sorts, able to hold his own in a physical fight but distinguishable from Fighters and Paladins by the use of tactical shifting. A good Warlord is not defined by how much damage he can take or dish-out but rather by letting his or her allies fight at their full potential. Warlords are distinctly a support class but with relatively mediocre healing and protecting abilities. Basically, Warlords are out in the field surveying the battle and making quick tactical decisions to influence the fight. These range from moving allies, moving enemies, allowing allies extra attacks and whatnot.

Fast-forward to the beginning of 2013 and I hear about this new champion called Thresh. Upon close inspection, I believe I have found the Warlord class within the realm of League. This is fantastic news as it really is a playstyle that was previously unavailable in the game. Giving people the ability to control the positioning of both enemies and allies is a fascinating new mechanic that is going to give support players a new high skill-cap champion to master.

That being said, this is a lop-sided prospect. The vast majority of League players play solo for most of their games and Thresh is simply not a champion that can be effective solo. From what I understand of the character, he brings massive utility to a team but the utility is INCREDIBLY reliant on teammates. Yeah, Thresh will still be somewhat useful without vocal communication between players but he's hamstrung by the inability to coordinate.

My prediction is that Thresh will make an entrance on the competitive scene and do fairly well there. Non-competitive players will make an attempt to copy them and fail miserably due to the team-reliant nature of the champion. He will then gain a reputation as a champion that's incredibly effective on organized teams but next to worthless otherwise. This is somewhat similar to the hero, Chen, in dota.

So, there you have it everyone. Feel free to give me some feedback (both positive and negative, I know I'm out of practice with these) and I'll see you all next week!

Week one: Personality http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2603027

Week two: Trundle http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2613613

Week three: Nunu http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2626315

Week four: Sion http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...1#post29977821

Week five: Melee Carries http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...6#post30170026

Week six: Gangplank http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2739639

Week seven: Difficulty http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2762015

Week eight: Elise http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...ight=bertboxer


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CerealBoxOfDoom

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01-20-2013

I believe thresh will have similar issues to leona but will overcome his more easily simply because he appeals more to young males. The average player doesn't even know what leona's passive is.

Thresh will rarely get supertanky off souls alone and will be very focused on positioning to get stronger. His endgame will be suprizingly weak though he will roflstomp lowlevels simply because people will get fed nasus syndrome and give up because they dont realize theres already answers to him in the shop.


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Geomancer93041

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01-20-2013

That's an interesting theory. I'll keep that in mind when playing him.


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CerealBoxOfDoom

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01-23-2013

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Originally Posted by CerealBoxOfDoom View Post
I believe thresh will have similar issues to leona but will overcome his more easily simply because he appeals more to young males. The average player doesn't even know what leona's passive is.

Thresh will rarely get supertanky off souls alone and will be very focused on positioning to get stronger. His endgame will be suprizingly weak though he will roflstomp lowlevels simply because people will get fed nasus syndrome and give up because they dont realize theres already answers to him in the shop.
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Crimson5pheonix

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01-23-2013

He's like Nasus, Veigar, and Sion in that he has infinite stacking stats. But because he doesn't really have control over how he can get them, he won't be an end game ultra carry like they are.

Otherwise, I need to play him to know if he can do his stated job well. But I can already tell he's a high skill champ, because he's being called UP :\


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CerealBoxOfDoom

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01-23-2013

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Originally Posted by Crimson5pheonix View Post
He's like Nasus, Veigar, and Sion in that he has infinite stacking stats. But because he doesn't really have control over how he can get them, he won't be an end game ultra carry like they are.

Otherwise, I need to play him to know if he can do his stated job well. But I can already tell he's a high skill champ, because he's being called UP :\
I think he'll be compared to nasus specifically. He shouldnt be, he will be though.

He will have the sort of effect leona has on games. Combo combo combo but much like leona he wont have a good record till selfish baddies and people who don't want a cool looking new tank to be "inside the box" stop playing him.


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RIP Bankplank

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01-23-2013

well he doesnt actually scale indefinitely, after a certain point the returns begin to diminish
but yeah, i definitely see him in the same general place as leona


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CerealBoxOfDoom

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01-23-2013

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well he doesnt actually scale indefinitely, after a certain point the returns begin to diminish
but yeah, i definitely see him in the same general place as leona
I AM VICTORIOUS

Im actually glad theres another leona style tank now though