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Dear: Good Udyr Players

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svartingr

Senior Member

10-21-2010

Someone want to help me NOT suck with him?


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HotslothGG

Senior Member

10-21-2010

Jungle
Gank
Build tank
Win games?

Seriously though, build tank and max Phoenix then Turtle (or bear, if the extra speed means that much..).

You can either go Bloodrazor, Mercs > situational tank items or the Sunfire build - Mercs, FoN, Ga, Sunfire x3 or Sunfire x 2 + Banshee's.

Personal style.


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Sfyri Ithikos

Senior Member

10-21-2010

Jungle, madreds, tank. That's pretty much it really. Madreds is the only item he needs to do decent damage. After you get some core tanky items you can start build AP or AD (i say AD for his tiger's activate) but he does great when built tanky.


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Bordellimies

Senior Member

10-21-2010

Always have at least 1 sunfire cape. That makes your phoenix stance cool.

Get it? It looks cool even though it is flaming hot? Eheh?


Innervating locket is good on him.


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50caliber

Member

10-21-2010

Quote:
svartingr:
Someone want to help me NOT suck with him?


You're gonna have to ask a more specific question than that.

Analyze what you could be doing wrong throughout the games.

Then again if you could do that you wouldn't be here asking this question.

It's a catch-22!

p.s. My guess is your problem is related to jungling, considering Udyr is a must-jungler. Look up material on proper jungling to see what you could be doing wrong. Practice jungling with other chars too.


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ScarletAzure

Senior Member

10-21-2010

You MUST jungle.

But you need proper runes for it, arp reds armor seals hp quints etc...

gank often and ALWAYS build tank, you might even skip bloodrazor.


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Gurglingemu

Senior Member

10-21-2010

Catalyst into Banshee's is a great way to start if the enemy team has a fair amount of magic damage (after razors of course). It gives the early-mid game mana that Udyr needs along with some survivability. From there, feel free to grab a Sunfire or another situational tanking item.

When jungling, make sure you are shifting between turtle and phoenix as often as your mana can allow, but not so often that you are wasting turtle shields or letting the AS buff drop. Not keeping up turtle shield means taking far too much damage. Start at blue, then work your way down, you should be level 4 when leaving the jungle for a gank at bottom or mid. Also, remember to position yourself so that phoenix stance is hitting all the jungle creeps.


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50caliber

Member

10-21-2010

Quote:
ScarletAzure:
You MUST jungle.

But you need proper runes for it, arp reds armor seals hp quints etc...

gank often and ALWAYS build tank, you might even skip bloodrazor.


I think the most optimal jungling build includes attackspeed.

But none of this is gonna help if you can't jungle properly first.

Getting red buff to gank or to dragon if you have madred's, warding dragon / enemy golem, harrassing enemy jungler, etc. etc.

Too much to talk about that are out of the scope of this thread.

Learn everything about jungling. Udyr's attack / stun utility / defense / run the hell away patterns are pretty easy to do. Simply put, you don't jungle right, you will not be good with udyr. Especially that you will get gimped hard if you dont have a decent time jungling.


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MightySnuffles

Senior Member

10-21-2010

step 1 Learn to jungle with ww. easiest jungle. Learn routes, how to read ganks, when to cover lanes, when to stop jungling, when to dragon etc.

step 2 Learn udyr's skills, when to switch stances and to what.

step 3 Learn to jungle udyr. Generally start with a point in pheonix, cloth armor, 5 health pots. Take blue, 1 point in turtle. Gratz you have completed the start of every jungle udyr build.

step 4 1 point in bear when you go for your first gank 3,4,5 etc. Try to have red. slow+a little dot to finish those low health escape miracles. "/all 8 health lol. You have been slain"

step 5 1 point in tiger when you go for your first tower.

step 6 repeat

Tips section
1. Bear can be used to escape, much like ghost or just to run around the map faster. You don't always have to stun with it
2. Turtle gives you mana as well so you don't necessarily need blue to jungle. It just helps
3. Lizard makes your physical hits slow so you can gank easier or at least make them burn ghost/flash.
4. Turtle can work like panth's passive and allow you to take a tower hit or 2 before taking damage if you dive.
5. You only get 1 item proc from tiger, not all 3. Plan accordingly.
6. You don't have to get the bloodrazor, but get the razor. +500 damage makes jungling a lot faster, especially buffs and that troublesome dragon.


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Solumas

Senior Member

10-21-2010

His rage is beyond your control.


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