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Originally Posted by Grunghole
I agree with everything you've posted, but with a caveat: It's true that tier lists don't apply to 99% of players, people act like they do. At middle to low ELO games, player skill is entirely dominant over champion selection.
Right, I never said the champions were good or that it was influencing my games. It's just annoying to see people talk about them, and see the same guys over and over in ranked, when it's having little/no effect on the games.