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@Xypherous: When would you want Atma's impaler??

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thumbnail9

Senior Member

01-17-2013

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Loulou:
Imagine you're a mana based bruiser and you have about 2.5k to spend.
Will you buy Atma's imapler or Glacial shroud plus Sheen or Warden?
Glacial shroud's CDR is too good unless you're Garen.

If I have sunfire or mogs already yes, Atma's is never and will never be a first pick items. I said it was a good supporting item.


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Ozbirta

Recruiter

01-17-2013

I don't see the winrate dipping below 50% in any demographic


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Loulou

Senior Member

01-17-2013

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Sybil Cut:
There's this age old adage you'd be good to learn
Correlation doesn't imply causation

Correct me if i'm wrong.
Can't we assume some causations?
There are two possible casusation:
1.Peeple win games because they buy Atma's
2.People win games; having too much money to spend, so they buy Atma's

If 1 is right, wouldn't pro players abuse it in tourney?
If they don't abuse Atma's, it should be 2.

Or I'm just totally wrong, it's magic made this correlation.


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Loulou

Senior Member

01-17-2013

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thumbnail9:
If I have sunfire or mogs already yes, Atma's is never and will never be a first pick items. I said it was a good supporting item.

sry I forgot to state you have sunfire or warmog.
Can you tell me why you don't want CDR?


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Loulou

Senior Member

01-17-2013

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Ozbirta:
I don't see the winrate dipping below 50% in any demographic

HMM..like this? http://www.lolking.net/items/3166 (http://www.lolking.net/items/3166)


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Last Elixir

Senior Member

01-17-2013

You could also cite that high end HP items grant less HP than before so maybe it is time to take Atma's back up to 2%


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PrincessDerpy

Senior Member

01-17-2013

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Elchulus:
It's extremely cost efficient still.


Who the **** cares? Cross out the crit and it stops being so efficient. Cross out 35% of the armor and it becomes a very ****ty item.

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Ozbirta:
I don't see the winrate dipping below 50% in any demographic


Stop.

Just stop. Stop failing to analyze. With a use rate that low, it should be VERY clear that when Atma's is being built, in the exceedingly rare circumstance that it is being built, it's being built by people that are ahead by a lot, or when the game has dragged on so late that you have upwards of 4K hp and a full build. And even then it's not core on anybody because there are other better sole offensive items out there.


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Loulou

Senior Member

01-17-2013

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Last Elixir:
You could also cite that high end HP items grant less HP than before so maybe it is time to take Atma's back up to 2%

If they buff it to 2% again, every ad top in tournaments will buy this as sixth item. It's meaningless.


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Boyahda

Senior Member

01-17-2013

Atmas gives 15 attack damage per 1000 health. So if you're stacking health AND can make use of the armor then go for it. Otherwise, it's a waste of a slot.


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12fingerJIM

Senior Member

01-17-2013

I build it on mundo, I mean I have 4000+ health anyways, why not?