New League System in Ranked

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MasterMoses

Junior Member

01-22-2013

With the new set up I would have actually liked a 3 person queue for the 5v5 ranked games. Most of the game is played out in 5v5 anyways


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Soiyeruda

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01-22-2013

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Originally Posted by Yegg View Post
If you queue dodge during a Division or Promotion Series then the series will immediately be canceled and you'll have to re-qualify for the series by winning another game. It might sound harsh, but queue dodge rates in ranked are honestly too high right now, and we're not interested in having some players carefully micromanaging their series matchups at the expense of everyone else's queue times and failed lobbies.
Will there be a check for champ select trolls before this happens, or are we gonna have to deal with potentially being stuck at X tier - division 5 for several games due to uncontrollable belligerents in champ select? I don't exaggerate when I say that if I could, I'd dodge at least half of my champion select lobbies due to player attitude, trolling, obvious attempts at forcing dodges, etc.

I honestly don't see this as anything but giving trolls more power, especially when the new system, from a basic perspective, is just Season 2's ranked system condensed into 30 levels.


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IBastardI

Senior Member

01-22-2013

still waiting 1 week ....any advance or date?


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Philballer17

Junior Member

01-22-2013

this still isnt going to help decent players that want to win games because they cant win if someone qued for a ranked match just to troll master yi bot lol. however it goes, players will still be grouped with trollers and fall below their division, and still accomplish nothing.


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goku button

Junior Member

01-22-2013

This is to Yegg. As for the last post of having to start over for dodging a queue, I have a question. Say you have won 2 and lost 2 of your placement matches and then you someone who trolls really hard in champ select and you know just from this one guy the game is going to suck if someone doesn't dodge. I almost never dodge for these people but i would hate to be almost diamond and this happen. Now i dont care about the dodge rule of the placement matches. but this would suck.
So my question is Riot working on a way to fix trolls in champ select? Like letting players vote to kick the troll or letting us vote to stop the champ select so we can wait 5 mins and let him pass.


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InFamousD147

Junior Member

01-23-2013

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Originally Posted by Dane Belthound View Post
A vote system is NEEDED in ranked.

You keep complaining about how high dodge rates and rather than look into WHY people are dodging, YOU ARE TRYING TO STOP US FROM DOING IT.

We are dodging because:

1) People cannot agree on roles, they are raging and there is no chemistry or team work from the start. THis typically results in someone making a troll pick to try and force someone else on the team to dodge because we don't want to lose elo and want a competitive and serious game.

2) There is an afk who random picks and IF he comes back expects someone else to dodge. Nuff said.

3) Someone is verbally abusing and raging. They are obviously not going to work well with the team.

4) Someone is intentionally trolling because they are 12. I ran into a guy a month ago who I talked to after the queue dodge. He let me know that he had trolled 14 matches that day because he likes watching people get upset.


This isn't us trying to find a "favorable" matchup as you so ignorantly put it on a regular basis. The majority of queue dodges are us trying to find a SERIOUS, COMPETITIVE game that isn't going to be a massacre because one or more of our team mates is an incompetent nincompoop or a 12 year old rager on a power trip.




We NEED a VOTING SYSTEM. Problem solved. Your excuses in the past have be:

4 man team will abuse this.


HUH? How? Vote system would only be in ranked. There is no such thing as a 4 man team.


This would prevent people from trying new meta.

BS.

Solo/Duo ranked is not the place to EXPERIMENT. And to be honest, as long as what you suggest in ranked is reasonable, people typically don't care and IF someone objects it is not ALL four people. If ALL FOUR people object it is typically something pretty stupid. And to kick someone ALL FOUR would need to agree.

I just went garen mid a few games ago. My team was fine with that because I explained that we had an ap jungle and ap top and garen countered their mid laner. No objections. I was reasonable and it wasn't an experiment.

If you want to TRY new meta go to NORMALS OR ranked 5v5. If you want to see how a practiced, new meta works. ASK YOUR TEAM, if they disagree or are not on board and the decision is unanimous then you are out of luck. If the other four people on your team are not on board and you do it anyways, YOU ARE WORKING AGAINST YOUR TEAM. This game is about team work and when you have a rogue agent who is going to do whatever they want it is counter productive.

FORCING people to queue with idiots, afks, and trolls does not encourage team work as you might naively believe. Most people WANT to work with their team. Most do not want to work with ragers, trolls, and afks. Which is why we dodge.




This idea that you have to try and prevent dodges is stupid.
As an educator that is such an asinine way to deal with the issue because it doesn't address the issue. That is like me wanting to stop a kid from crying by removing their tear ducts and vocal chords instead of figuring out why s/he is crying and figuring out how to remedy that. YOu just see a behavior you want to stop, and instead of figuring out why it is happening you instead are trying to instill fear of consequences in us. Any behavioral health professional will tell you THAT DOES NOT WORK. Think you would have learned by now. You have taken our elo, banned us etc and it isn't working. It is just pissing people off.

Well said! unfortunately Riot wont even consider/apply any of this....sad....this guy who wrote this is on point...Riot could learn a lesson for him. Hopelessly playing LoL listening to AL Green - A change gone come....

cause it wont...


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Nightshadde

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01-23-2013

Will be there a list with all the players in our division where we can check out our own position in that list? Thanks.


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Anti1460

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01-23-2013

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Originally Posted by ThePapa View Post
Everyone saying elo hell does not exist and that u need to accept your teammates is just stupid and has not experienced the entire spectrum of games. There is a point between 1000 elo games and 1500 elo games where the percentage of games where u have someone who is be "trolling" aka buying all of 1 item and feeding mid repeatedly on purpose drops off massively. Thats because its much harder to get your account to the 1500 level so people that make it there tend to not ruin games or their acct, whereas when u start ranked you start at 1200 regardless of when in the season you're starting. NOT ROCKET SCIENCE
ya its getting there thats the problem.

like i sad i won 2 games in 3 days (lost 300 elo) because of trolls or ppl going afk. its kinda hard to get that back. i went from 1213 to almost 900 then back to almost 1100 and now back to 1001 because of this happening.


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SERVANTofELI

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01-24-2013

Do we have any sort of timeline to when this is coming out?


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Dsievs

Junior Member

01-24-2013

When are we expecting this system to be implemented?! Are we talking within the next week or farther out than that?