Swain op

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Dyr0nejk2

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01-18-2013

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Originally Posted by SoyUnRex View Post
Lol how does a champion fall in late game when you can W and if you catch their ADC you just combo+ignite and he is dead.... then you use Zonhyas and THATS IT... insta 5 vs 4
What swain builds enough damage that he can do this, a swain that does this much damage won't last very long....


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epaR sbooN

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01-18-2013

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Originally Posted by SoyUnRex View Post
Lol how does a champion fall in late game when you can W and if you catch their ADC you just combo+ignite and he is dead.... then you use Zonhyas and THATS IT... insta 5 vs 4
thats usually just baddies logic it surely isnt true at all they are just horrible at swain


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Ask Tyrant Swain

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01-18-2013

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Originally Posted by Crocele View Post
to bad he falls off late game and doesnt do much
He has excellent AP scallings.


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WellWHOOOOSThis

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01-18-2013

He is extremely limited by range, with the exception of his root. Stop being stupid.


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Qeuscis

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01-18-2013

Swain has to snowball to have an impact, and getting fed with him is rather hard in a professional setting, due to his immobility and low range.


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SoloDragoon

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01-18-2013

Swain is strong.

But is way to easily stopped. It isn't ignite per-say thats the issue - its the grievous wounds. Even if you QSS it - it can easily be re-applied. Mundo also knows this pain.


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Ignis Mors

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01-18-2013

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Originally Posted by Tyronejk2 View Post
What swain builds enough damage that he can do this, a swain that does this much damage won't last very long....
---Against a coordinated enemy, no, it isn't very viable. Against a pile of Normals a glass-cannon Swain can dive the ADC, kill him, Zhonyas, kill the support, Seraph's, kill the opposing AP and then walk away while his team mops up. The key to playing glass-cannon Swain is getting off QEWR-Ignite (not necessarily in that order) before you have to Zhonyas. If you can do that, one of the enemy is dead and you have a 5v4 and still have Seraphs up. Glass-cannon Swain with a void staff can actually tank as effectively as a tanky Swain, with the only thing rendering that build viable or not is whether or not Swain is feeding too may kills mid game. If he can build full glass-cannon without facing a really fed enemy late game, he will 1v3 or 1v4 easily.

Against a coordinated team you either CC him before he can R, which means he is dead, or build a poke comp to chunk him at range, forcing him to hang back or using R to heal off minions. The second Swain drops out of R you've got a solid 6 seconds to kill him pretty easily. Also, when he uses R, stops his mobility and get away. It's hard for him to chase an enemy that isn't already slowed or locked down with R still running, as it's eating his mana while not dealing damage nor healing him. In fact, if you can immobilize him while his R is active, and burst him out of its range you can kill him despite it.


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Merluza00

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01-18-2013

executioner calling?? hell even morellonomicon (or w/e) is strong against him, just burst him under 40% hp and his ult will just tickle you with no healing to him.


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