Why don't I see AD Kennen?

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Cinchspark

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01-11-2013

After looking at his stats, he has the highest base atk speed of ADCs in the game, and better scaling than some ADCs. He has a stun, escape, harass move, and a AA ability prix damage boost. It's all amazing once you also consider the fact that he runs on energy. Plus he's a ninja.


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Armageddal

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01-11-2013

AD Kennen is actually good, although his ult is rather lackluster. It's alright for kiting melee opponents, but it doesn't do any damage. He shines in the lane phase because of his energy and W harass.


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iDpark

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01-12-2013

I was thinking of trying an AP kennen support.
No mana = max spam.


I'd build him like a bruiser though. Almost how I build everyone.


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Amatzikahni

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01-12-2013

He really doesn't have an AD-boosting ability; all the other ADC's either have spamable AD-scaling abilities or a steroid of some kind which causes them to scale harder than other champs. Kennen, though, just has an occasional stun and an escape. In addition, if he wants to AoE stun, his positioning has to be horrid for an ADC (in the middle of the enemy group) and his ult makes him move like a snail. In other words, he can't use his entire kit effectively if he builds AD and he has no steroid, so many other champs do the job better.


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Oconnigan

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01-12-2013

IMO, AD Kennen can easily be done but is just really outclassed by his AP counterpart


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Rakaydos

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01-14-2013

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Originally Posted by Amatzikahni View Post
He really doesn't have an AD-boosting ability; all the other ADC's either have spamable AD-scaling abilities or a steroid of some kind which causes them to scale harder than other champs. Kennen, though, just has an occasional stun and an escape. In addition, if he wants to AoE stun, his positioning has to be horrid for an ADC (in the middle of the enemy group) and his ult makes him move like a snail. In other words, he can't use his entire kit effectively if he builds AD and he has no steroid, so many other champs do the job better.
Every 5th attack, his W gives him a magic damage proc equal to 80% of his AD


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Cenerae

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01-14-2013

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Every 5th attack, his W gives him a magic damage proc equal to 80% of his AD
If you're running him AD, then you won't be using magic pen. Without that magic pen, that proc is going to do very little when you do get it, and it doesn't come up quite often enough to really be good.

AD Kennen used to be a thing, back when it procced every 4 attacks. But less because Kennen is a great AD pick and more because he provided a boatload of stuns while dealing enough physical damage to get the job done.

He still can do exactly that, but the W nerf really hurt his performance in that role. Compare him to Graves or Ezreal, and you'll see that he just can't compete with that as he is. He'd fill a utility niche like Ashe does.


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Warrrrax

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01-14-2013

AD kennen was a thing a ways back. Even a few pro teams picked him, as he was somewhat viable.

Riot of course decided this was a travesty and immediately nerfed him. His range got crapped on and a few other nerfs.

One obvious problem is that most of his stuff scales on AP...but then so does Trist, Ez, MF, and tons of other ADCs.

I think the biggest thing holding him back is his crappy range. 525 is awful, especially for a pretty fragile champ like Kennen (as opposed to Graves who has more built in toughness).

He also kind of falls off since his base values on spells won't be very strong and his autoattack range blows and he has no real steroid. Tossing shurikans, ult, turbospeed all are useless for damage dealing.