Wow really

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rain Spring

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01-08-2013

banned fromm a shen game because you didnt save a guy with your ult.. and giving **** to a guy who decides to double jungle and ruin the game.. real nice riot thx for that


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PenguinKillBear

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01-08-2013

I doubt those specific instances are not why you were banned.

Post reform card please.


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Zaresin

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01-08-2013

I'll just post this here for your benefit as the last part of your post pertains to section 1 and 4. Please read it


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Originally Posted by Lyte View Post
Lately, I've been receiving a lot of e-mails about the same questions and complaints about the Tribunal. I'm working with WookieCookie, RiotSeb and statuskwoh to add these to the Tribunal FAQs but we would love to discuss them here first.

1) What's the point of having a language filter if I can get banned for 'adult' language?
a) We aren't out to punish players who use adult language; in fact, very few players are ever banned for saying stuff like "f***, I missed that skill shot" or "damn, f***ing close game!" However, the language filter is not an excuse to verbally abuse someone in the game. When you verbally abuse or harass someone by calling them "f***ing ******" or "n*gger noob", that's when you've crossed the line and will be punished by the Tribunal. I've said this before and I'll say it again, we aren't trying to clean online games of adult language; we're trying to reform or get rid of jerks who like to verbally abuse and harass other players.

2) I only have 1 bad game in my Tribunal Reform Card, why am I banned???
a) The Tribunal verdict is not based on a 'majority' rule; there is also no requirement that all games have to be toxic for it to warrant a suspension. Depending on the case, sometimes 1 game is all that is needed to show that the player deserves a suspension. To Tribunal reviewers, decisions like these are up to you. When you view a Tribunal case, the questions you should ask yourselves are, "Is this player's behavior appropriate in League of Legends?" and "Would I want to play with this player?"

3) This player should have been banned, but he was pardoned. The Tribunal is broken!
a) The Tribunal was inspired by 'crowdsourcing' research. When I was still a student, I worked with labs that developed games such as "Foldit" that took advantage of crowdsourcing to find solutions to extremely tricky tasks--when you read this research you truly appreciate how accurate crowdsourcing systems can be. In fact, the Tribunal is far more accurate than traditional Player Support.

However, the Tribunal isn't perfect. The design is based on statistical probability and random sampling and every system like this has outliers. This means that sometimes, a player has an egregious Tribunal case but is still pardoned because he happened to get a lenient set of voters; however, if the player is truly toxic, he actually is re-sent back to the Tribunal in a handful of games and is usually accurately punished in his second visit to the Tribunal.

Because the Tribunal is designed to identify frequency and consistency of toxic behavior, this is why it doesn't take into account the severity of the offense. If a player is extremely toxic he will quickly get banned multiple times by the Tribunal until he is permabanned; in fact, extremely toxic players end up permabanned significantly faster than players who are 'less severe.' In the future, we may want to brainstorm ways to improve on the Tribunal so that it does take into account severity and adjusts punishments accordingly... but we're not there yet.

4) That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned???
a) I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic player by being toxic just incites that player to be even worse--it also ruins the game for up to 8 other players. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all game than it is to watch 1 player ranting into blank space. Almost everyone in the game can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our players. What players often don't realize is... those other players in your game that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be banned. It's really that simple.

5) Low skill players should be banned from the game! The Tribunal should only ban Leavers/AFK and intentional feeders, those are the only types of players that really ruin games!
a) No. Just no. Jerks ruin games. League of Legends is for everyone whether they are 500 Elo or 2500 Elo. It's not a game for jerks.


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rain Spring

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01-08-2013

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/6115625/


Game 1: the guy taking my jungle when im jungle. then he goes afk until 4 mins in. then we have the trolly bot lane who freaks out every time somone trys to help them in lane pinging off and refusing to attack when we go in their lane.
Game 2: zyra took the champ I wanted so when I went an adc mid he said he was going to report me after the game regardless and then the team decides to not work as a team at all for the whole game always fighting uneven battles frustrating for everyone in the game at different points you can see 1 or the other of us yelling at somone.
Game 3: i started off defending our support because our adc was so bad he was blaming her for him dieing when it was 100% not her fault. then late game he decided to throw, 0 clue how to play. which yes I was frustrated him and told him to go play blinds but I dont think theres anything wrong with that, he needs more practise before ranking.. i wudnt report him for it.
GAme 4; this nocturn argues all game with enemy talking **** and complaining at allies and i literally have 1 sentence all game talking him asking him to shut up and he reports me.
game 5: said reported for "bashing voli all game" when if you read chat i said GJ, "hyper carry voli" because he was doing so well. the person I said "fail smite" to was EVE the person who falsly reported me for bashing on voli when i never said 1 thing all chat against him...


YES i have foul language in those games and try WAY to hard to win. the last 2 game reports weree just a total joke though absolutely no reason for them. first couple i could see how the language looks bad when you cant see whats going on in game


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PenguinKillBear

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01-08-2013

Yeah, 30 seconds into the first case and punish.

You can defend it all you want but other peoples actions are not in question. Only yours are the topic and you were negative, rude, and vulgar.


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Zaresin

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01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by PenguinKillBear View Post
Yeah, 30 seconds into the first case and punish.

You can defend it all you want but other peoples actions are not in question. Only yours are the topic and you were negative, rude, and vulgar.
GASP....noo...NOOO...say it isn't so Penguin....SAY IT ISN'T SO.....but but the other players were being sooo mean.....he was in the right Right???



On a side note: If you ever notice my posts where some are actually nice and considerate and others are just blunt and or short sweet to the point or in this case just trolly. It depends on how the OP responds to posts and creates their original thread. If you are nice and polite and seriously want to ask a question and accept all criticism even if it is soemthing you dont' wish to hear then I will be polite and work with you to try and help you to understand what happened. If you are a total jerk as you are in the games you were banned for, then my sympathy for you goes out the window. I'm usually quite nice, but when you are rude my filter gets turned off and I tend to be a royal *****.


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PenguinKillBear

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01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by Zaresin View Post
GASP....noo...NOOO...say it isn't so Penguin....SAY IT ISN'T SO.....but but the other players were being sooo mean.....he was in the right Right???
haha

the first 4 lines of case 1.
guess who the OP is

Taric [00:00:31] gonna get heal first because of sona poke
Varus [00:00:37] k
Ziggs [00:01:19] gooiiiing
Shen [00:01:51] hey u dumb fuyck


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rain Spring

Member

01-08-2013

i think its funny you get on here to troll people who got a ban zaresin. like its not annoying enough. and I think i got banned off the first game beccasue i was being vulgar because anyone who reads farther and my other cases has to be crazy to give me a ban look at the last 2 game chats..


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PenguinKillBear

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01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by IamSpring View Post
i think its funny you get on here to troll people who got a ban zaresin. like its not annoying enough. and I think i got banned off the first game beccasue i was being vulgar because anyone who reads farther and my other cases has to be crazy to give me a ban look at the last 2 game chats..
first of all it only takes one game to hit punish on the tribunal.

this is from game 4
Zyra [00:14:17] cante believe 2 got away
Zyra [00:14:24] mana plz
Zyra [00:14:31] or not
Nocturne [00:16:18] zyra you there
Zyra [00:16:24] if u dont
Zyra [00:16:25] stop talking
Zyra [00:16:31] im literally going to go afk
Zyra [00:16:33] your so annoying
Zyra [00:16:37] painfull to be in game withu

not acceptable.


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MindOfGames

Junior Member

01-08-2013

Give it a rest Zaresin, there are just as much trolls on the forums as there is in game....probably more to be honest...every post on here gets trolled by these guys who clearly never played a competitive sport in their life haha. Try to do something to not think about it until the bans clears then just wait for your pick on ranked, instant lock, watch a youtube video until the game starts, mute your entire team, and play a relaxed game, thats the only way possible to not get angry with all the god dam idiots in this community. And Im not trolling you at all but I put a post up a few days ago and I havent been on the forums in a while and I started reading around this Tribunal thread....

sadly just full of know it all dumb asses who cant take being called a ***** or that they suck or something lmfao! Why the hell (I'm actually scared to curse cause they morons will probably take it to heart and find a way to suspend/ban me) do we have a mute button or a swear filter if we cant use it?