wtf is wrong with tribunal?

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FullMetalLizard

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01-07-2013

I honestly did nothing wrong and i get banned? I KNOW you guys dont believe that i really did "nothing" wrong, but thats the truth. Like wtf i honestly cant even recall what i did, i know when i rage and **** talk but this time its not the case. and i also dont feed, because i take ranked seriously. they really need to start telling you what you got banned for because this is so stupid. Im left in the cold for 2 weeks having no idea what i did. and ive also been playing duo ranked the past days and winning and carrying and then i play one game today and won that also and 2 hours later im banned? like wtf. this really pisses me off


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Zaresin

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01-07-2013

Link to reform card, will be in your junk folder if not in your inbox

EDIT: On a side note if this is your two week ban, perm ban is next so tone done the hostile attitude as they do refer to the forums when deciding bans. Even if you change your post. Just an FYI.


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Zaresin

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01-07-2013

I'll just go ahead and post this for when you read your reform card for easy reference and so that you don't try to justify anything that is contained therein. Too many players try to justify verbal abuse because someone else started it or because someone was not performing to someone else's standards.


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Lately, I've been receiving a lot of e-mails about the same questions and complaints about the Tribunal. I'm working with WookieCookie, RiotSeb and statuskwoh to add these to the Tribunal FAQs but we would love to discuss them here first.

1) What's the point of having a language filter if I can get banned for 'adult' language?
a) We aren't out to punish players who use adult language; in fact, very few players are ever banned for saying stuff like "f***, I missed that skill shot" or "damn, f***ing close game!" However, the language filter is not an excuse to verbally abuse someone in the game. When you verbally abuse or harass someone by calling them "f***ing ******" or "n*gger noob", that's when you've crossed the line and will be punished by the Tribunal. I've said this before and I'll say it again, we aren't trying to clean online games of adult language; we're trying to reform or get rid of jerks who like to verbally abuse and harass other players.

2) I only have 1 bad game in my Tribunal Reform Card, why am I banned???
a) The Tribunal verdict is not based on a 'majority' rule; there is also no requirement that all games have to be toxic for it to warrant a suspension. Depending on the case, sometimes 1 game is all that is needed to show that the player deserves a suspension. To Tribunal reviewers, decisions like these are up to you. When you view a Tribunal case, the questions you should ask yourselves are, "Is this player's behavior appropriate in League of Legends?" and "Would I want to play with this player?"

3) This player should have been banned, but he was pardoned. The Tribunal is broken!
a) The Tribunal was inspired by 'crowdsourcing' research. When I was still a student, I worked with labs that developed games such as "Foldit" that took advantage of crowdsourcing to find solutions to extremely tricky tasks--when you read this research you truly appreciate how accurate crowdsourcing systems can be. In fact, the Tribunal is far more accurate than traditional Player Support.

However, the Tribunal isn't perfect. The design is based on statistical probability and random sampling and every system like this has outliers. This means that sometimes, a player has an egregious Tribunal case but is still pardoned because he happened to get a lenient set of voters; however, if the player is truly toxic, he actually is re-sent back to the Tribunal in a handful of games and is usually accurately punished in his second visit to the Tribunal.

Because the Tribunal is designed to identify frequency and consistency of toxic behavior, this is why it doesn't take into account the severity of the offense. If a player is extremely toxic he will quickly get banned multiple times by the Tribunal until he is permabanned; in fact, extremely toxic players end up permabanned significantly faster than players who are 'less severe.' In the future, we may want to brainstorm ways to improve on the Tribunal so that it does take into account severity and adjusts punishments accordingly... but we're not there yet.

4) That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned???
a) I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic player by being toxic just incites that player to be even worse--it also ruins the game for up to 8 other players. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all game than it is to watch 1 player ranting into blank space. Almost everyone in the game can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our players. What players often don't realize is... those other players in your game that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be banned. It's really that simple.

5) Low skill players should be banned from the game! The Tribunal should only ban Leavers/AFK and intentional feeders, those are the only types of players that really ruin games!
a) No. Just no. Jerks ruin games. League of Legends is for everyone whether they are 500 Elo or 2500 Elo. It's not a game for jerks.


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FullMetalLizard

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01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Zaresin View Post
Link to reform card, will be in your junk folder if not in your inbox

EDIT: On a side note if this is your two week ban, perm ban is next so tone done the hostile attitude as they do refer to the forums when deciding bans. Even if you change your post. Just an FYI.
Thanks, i just found out i was banned for two weeks because of soemthing i did a month ago lol. riot is ridiculous


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Zaresin

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01-07-2013

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Thanks, i just found out i was banned for two weeks because of soemthing i did a month ago lol. riot is ridiculous
Means Riot took a while in going through all your game history. Ummm....you possibly were't that attached to that account were you by chance? How bad was your reform card by chance? If it was really bad and you haven't changed your behavior that much and it was a month ago that the tribunal rendered its decision, then I have some bad news for you.


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FullMetalLizard

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01-08-2013

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Originally Posted by Zaresin View Post
Means Riot took a while in going through all your game history. Ummm....you possibly were't that attached to that account were you by chance? How bad was your reform card by chance? If it was really bad and you haven't changed your behavior that much and it was a month ago that the tribunal rendered its decision, then I have some bad news for you.
what is the bad news? because i played quite a bit on that account, the ban was because i was reported by 2 people on 2 seperate games and i guess i was raging a little bit. but i wasnt the only one raging. i honestly dont think i shouldve been banned for that, i was banned like a month before and that one i did deserve but this one i honestly dont think i did...


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Getsuei

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01-08-2013

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what is the bad news? because i played quite a bit on that account, the ban was because i was reported by 2 people on 2 seperate games and i guess i was raging a little bit. but i wasnt the only one raging. i honestly dont think i shouldve been banned for that, i was banned like a month before and that one i did deserve but this one i honestly dont think i did...
The next banning after the 2 weeks ban is usually a perma ban. So that may be the ban news he was talking about. If possible, I would try to find a way to keep from getting punished/fix your behaviour.

Here is a link from a reform player, it may help you or it may not:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...1#post32610351