God the tribunal is so broken

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Devastator Jones

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01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Knight Of Tanner View Post
I just got banned for saying my team doesn't deserve to win..because they fought the entire time...And the other report was because we had a rengar that was feeding on purpose we asked to report they said yes, then we won and the anivia raged and said she was going to report everyone..And riot doesn't even look they just BANHAMMUR
Take a break, read some of the advice given to you in this thread on how to improve your in game communication and then come back and be more polite in game. That will help keep you out of Tribunal.

Being defensive about your "communication" will only get you more bans in the long run. My advice: Learn, change, and adapt to the rules of the game.


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Zachrin

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01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Ghostshadowblade View Post
EDIT: Try not to blow up like a volcanoe. Don't be a feminest also, females are the best, and I hate when someone uses a word to go against them, since I have a lot of lady friends, and a girlfriend.
To expand on this point, it's not ok to insult anyone. Guys, gals, whatever: the golden rule to live by to stay away from the tribunal is don't be a jerk.


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Zaresin

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01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Knight Of Tanner View Post
I was moking him. Because he called me "gay"
for being named tanner, I can defend myself.
Please read


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Originally Posted by Lyte View Post
Lately, I've been receiving a lot of e-mails about the same questions and complaints about the Tribunal. I'm working with WookieCookie, RiotSeb and statuskwoh to add these to the Tribunal FAQs but we would love to discuss them here first.

1) What's the point of having a language filter if I can get banned for 'adult' language?
a) We aren't out to punish players who use adult language; in fact, very few players are ever banned for saying stuff like "f***, I missed that skill shot" or "damn, f***ing close game!" However, the language filter is not an excuse to verbally abuse someone in the game. When you verbally abuse or harass someone by calling them "f***ing ******" or "n*gger noob", that's when you've crossed the line and will be punished by the Tribunal. I've said this before and I'll say it again, we aren't trying to clean online games of adult language; we're trying to reform or get rid of jerks who like to verbally abuse and harass other players.

2) I only have 1 bad game in my Tribunal Reform Card, why am I banned???
a) The Tribunal verdict is not based on a 'majority' rule; there is also no requirement that all games have to be toxic for it to warrant a suspension. Depending on the case, sometimes 1 game is all that is needed to show that the player deserves a suspension. To Tribunal reviewers, decisions like these are up to you. When you view a Tribunal case, the questions you should ask yourselves are, "Is this player's behavior appropriate in League of Legends?" and "Would I want to play with this player?"

3) This player should have been banned, but he was pardoned. The Tribunal is broken!
a) The Tribunal was inspired by 'crowdsourcing' research. When I was still a student, I worked with labs that developed games such as "Foldit" that took advantage of crowdsourcing to find solutions to extremely tricky tasks--when you read this research you truly appreciate how accurate crowdsourcing systems can be. In fact, the Tribunal is far more accurate than traditional Player Support.

However, the Tribunal isn't perfect. The design is based on statistical probability and random sampling and every system like this has outliers. This means that sometimes, a player has an egregious Tribunal case but is still pardoned because he happened to get a lenient set of voters; however, if the player is truly toxic, he actually is re-sent back to the Tribunal in a handful of games and is usually accurately punished in his second visit to the Tribunal.

Because the Tribunal is designed to identify frequency and consistency of toxic behavior, this is why it doesn't take into account the severity of the offense. If a player is extremely toxic he will quickly get banned multiple times by the Tribunal until he is permabanned; in fact, extremely toxic players end up permabanned significantly faster than players who are 'less severe.' In the future, we may want to brainstorm ways to improve on the Tribunal so that it does take into account severity and adjusts punishments accordingly... but we're not there yet.

4) That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned???
a) I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic player by being toxic just incites that player to be even worse--it also ruins the game for up to 8 other players. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all game than it is to watch 1 player ranting into blank space. Almost everyone in the game can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our players. What players often don't realize is... those other players in your game that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be banned. It's really that simple.

5) Low skill players should be banned from the game! The Tribunal should only ban Leavers/AFK and intentional feeders, those are the only types of players that really ruin games!
a) No. Just no. Jerks ruin games. League of Legends is for everyone whether they are 500 Elo or 2500 Elo. It's not a game for jerks.


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Doct0r Phil

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01-07-2013

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Feminist spotted
Lol don't you love when they justify their bans in the forum they are trying to defend themselves in?

Play a different game!


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dignitas Rampant

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01-07-2013

I'm confused... how are you confused by your suspension. I'll admit, there have been a few questionable ones brought up in the forums, but I have never seen someone try to defend what was so obviously offensive language. I'm sorry, there a are a few words that have almost no redeeming qualities. I'm not even going to include the n-word in this list, because sometimes, for reasons that are beyond me, it is used as a term of endearment.

But the c-word, the k-word, and sq-word have no redeeming qualities. There are of course the ethnic slurs as well, but I don't understand why you have an issue with that. As for the use of the word 'gay', I'm not too much of a stickler on that. If someone says, that was 'gay', I don't care. No issue, its being used for an entirely different reason. But when you repeatedly attempt to demean someone by calling them 'gay', I honestly don't care what word you were using. You were just being a jackass. If you had used the word "idiot" or "f**" or "dumb" or whatever, it doesn't change that your intent was to causwe offense.


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