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Worst designed?

Sion 88 37.29%
Yorick 7 2.97%
Master Yi 2 0.85%
Darius 46 19.49%
Heimerdinger 10 4.24%
Karma 25 10.59%
Evelynn 5 2.12%
Gangplank 2 0.85%
Soraka 5 2.12%
Jax 1 0.42%
Nasus 1 0.42%
Teemo 16 6.78%
Poppy 9 3.81%
Trundle 6 2.54%
Tryndamere 2 0.85%
Udyr 2 0.85%
Volibear 3 1.27%
Urgot 6 2.54%
Voters 236 .

What's the worst designed champion in the game?

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Asylum Lux

Senior Member

01-05-2013

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CrazedPorcupine:
Every champion that doesn't use mana for their abilities. PERIOD. Look at every hero that doesn't use mana, they've all been reworked/nerfed/changed to the point that most people don't even remember what they originally did....

Vlad and Mordekaiser and Kat are my 3 main examples....


Hey, don't throw everyone under the bus.

Shyvana's only gotten two small tweaks (along with a slew of bug fixes).
Riven was hotfixed after release, then nerfed slightly a while later.
Garen was reworked after he fell out of use, mostly a result of power creep.
Dr. Mundo is really old, and he got a few tweaks here and there accordingly.
Zed is unchanged as of now, but his viability is under debate.
Renekton has been changed once since Brand's release (April 12th, 2011).


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CrazedPorcupine

Senior Member

01-05-2013

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Asylum Lux:
Hey, don't throw everyone under the bus.

Shyvana's only gotten two small tweaks (along with a slew of bug fixes).
Riven was hotfixed after release, then nerfed slightly a while later.
Garen was reworked after he fell out of use, mostly a result of power creep.
Dr. Mundo is really old, and he got a few tweaks here and there accordingly.
Zed is unchanged as of now, but his viability is under debate.
Renekton has been changed once since Brand's release (April 12th, 2011).


This is True, however, Zed and Renekton have come back into play with the rework of Black cleaver...

Lee Sin went through a tumultious 2 months after he was released, OP UP OP still OP OP FINALLY all right...
Kennen is virtually unseen,
Renekton fell completely out of use until Season 3...
Akali fell out of favor with the meta shifts...
Shen is freaking OP as none other, Got nerfed the living hell out of him, went UP for the longest time then got buffed to the point of Permabanning in ranked (all cause of his ultimate...)
Zed's just awkward, hes that wierd AD caster that people wanted but is in that sucky position of no really good items for AD casters, (Black Cleaver helped some what...)
Riven is still considered STUPIDLY strong for her mechanics and that her Defensive skill SCALES with an OFFENSIVE stat... I mean, what would happen if Lee Sin's Shield scaled with AD rather than AP?

Shyvanna as a jungler is in that position of being untouchable without ruining her gameplay and if a power creep comes in, she'll be in teh same boat as Trundle (may he rest in peace...)

Garen has been reworked 2 or 3 times since season one if I remember correctly and buffed and nerfed about 3 times that amount...

Mundo was in that weird spot of Am I bruiser or Tank.... Season 2 changes to items and buffs helped define that role, he's now one of the most OP bruisers in the game next to AD sion... (in terms of Focus him or he'll wreck your entire team.)


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Sam Kekovich

Junior Member

01-05-2013

Holy squirrel cuttlefish where the hell is Sejuani?


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Zeratul

Member

01-05-2013

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HeartlessXiao:
Both.

In terms of overall design.


U say visually but no kassadin?


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Whimsosaurus Hex

Senior Member

01-05-2013

Sejuani is very well designed, both visually and mechanically...her numbers just absolutely positively completely suck.


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MCLEMORE121

Junior Member

01-05-2013

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Asylum Lux:
From a design perspective, Sion is an absolute cluster**** of what even. He looks like he should be able to go AD or AP, but in practice, you end up with half of one or the other.

Let's analyze his kit.

First, here's all of the great things that Sion has in his kit sorted by what role they would benefit. Some are duplicates because many abilities have multiple uses.

Tanky things:
-Permanent health gained from farming, great for late-game defense
-Stun, decent for ganking
-Passive damage blocking, great for teamfights
-Powerful shield (300 health at rank 5)

Melee AD carry things:
-AD steroid, and a big one - only five AD less than Master Yi's activated Wuju Style
-Point and click stun, good for 1v1's
-Ridiculous lifesteal steroid

Castery things:
-Amazing shield, more than double the ratio on Orianna's Command: Protect
-Easy and safe combo makes it easy to trigger Lich Bane
-Great waveclear potential

Supporty things:
-1.5 second stun, great for holding down enemies
-Passive damage blocking works great against the enemy ADC in early game
-Shield break can help the AD carry clear if you want to push
-Ultimate can heal teammates a lot with some AD

Now, this looks like a champion that can do anything, right? Wrong.

Tanky problems:
People ignore you. After you use your stun, you're done. You don't do anything else if you're just building tanky.

Melee AD carry problems:
You can't build Black Cleaver effectively. Goodbye.

Caster problems:
You have a crapton of free lifesteal and attack damage that you're wasting.

Support problems:
How are you supposed to get health without farming?

I JUST MURDERED A GAME WITH AD SION and i always do i play him as melee AD carry/off tank i get 2 phantom dancers after my boots and go to a frozen mallet to a hydra to whatever he is supper crazy early game by lvl 3 i have a 1.5 sec stun about 116 ad and a 100 health shield with a 40% chance to ignore 40 damage