New Lightbringer Passive: No Shrooms for Teemo

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Fabbyyy

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01-04-2013

Finally, an effective counter to teemo!


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Gribblez

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01-04-2013

Was this really necessary? Teemos already had his ultimate nerfed hard base damage wise, now you are giving players an item that completely negates his ultimate? How is this balanced in the least bit?


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inFe eD

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01-04-2013

I find the tears of Teemo players delicious.


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Orphane

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01-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Gribblez View Post
Was this really necessary? Teemos already had his ultimate nerfed hard base damage wise, now you are giving players an item that completely negates his ultimate? How is this balanced in the least bit?
Is this guy for real?


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George W Nome

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01-04-2013
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Originally Posted by Sykomyke View Post
I like the changes but instead of countering a champ who is OP right now...BALANCE HIM. AP Ratios are his spells are absurd. And NERF BFT. It needs to have a TON of changes put to it. Make it so that aoe,dots only do 1/2 the burn damage. It needs to be looked at like Rylais did. AoE/traps/DoT spells need to have a lesser burn effect. It's not rocket science Riot.
He's much less problematic on Summoner's Rift, which is where champion balance is directed. We're not going to wreck him on SR because he's too strong on Dominion or Twisted Treeline. A competent Teemo player still has plenty of tools even without depending on minefields.


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Orphane

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01-04-2013

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He's much less problematic on Summoner's Rift, which is where champion balance is directed. We're not going to wreck him on SR because he's too strong on Dominion or Twisted Treeline. A competent Teemo player still has plenty of tools even without depending on minefields.
Given that his R nerfs came around the preseason changes, which is when Oracle's Elixir lost its indefinite duration, are the duration of his shrooms going to be looked at at all? 10 minutes seems like definite overkill, even in SR (now that Oracle's is 5 minutes max).


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Wawix

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01-04-2013

So basically you spend 2,4k gold on a weird version of oracles, as its permanent but it doesn't reveal stealth champs. Most ADC can't afford 2.4k on an utility item (haven't seen the stats yet), so I guess its a bruiser-only item to counter traps? What about AP champions? Doesn't seem fair that AD itemization has an option like that while AP itemization doesn't, even more when you consider that dominion is full blind-pick and you can't really tell if there is a teemo/shaco on the enemy team to pick a champion that can build this item and benefit from it.

I think the current lightbringer is okay, but the oracles is trash. They should remake the oracle's extract to work like this lightbringer (with brush included) and you have solved the problem without ruining a good item for some ADCs.


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Orphane

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01-04-2013

The stats on it IIRC are 50 AD, 20 armor, 12% lifesteal, a 20% chance to deal 100 magic damage to champs and 200 to minions on autoattack, and the sweeper active, as well as the trap reveal.

Being that it builds out of Grez's Lantern, I don't think it will be much of a problem for either AD carries or bruisers to pick up.


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ZetsubouFallen

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01-04-2013

This is one balance that should had done before, since Teemo mushroom on 3vs3, dominion and PG is a broken issue, foremost the counter play it had when you put one and you GOTTA USE a ward to kill one.


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Jixson

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01-04-2013

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Originally Posted by RiotNome View Post
He's much less problematic on Summoner's Rift, which is where champion balance is directed. We're not going to wreck him on SR because he's too strong on Dominion or Twisted Treeline. A competent Teemo player still has plenty of tools even without depending on minefields.
I don't want to throw this off, but wasn't the reason Mundo was obliterated so long ago because he dominated TT?

So, you really can't say that line is true.