Why is karma considered a bad champ?

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Peggy

Senior Member

10-29-2012

seriously. Don't just feed me bull****, list logical thought out reasons



whenever i ask someone they just say "uhh she's just bad".


She has shields, slows, heals, MS buffs, and poke. Isn't that what makes a decent support? She can even go full on AP mid since her ratios haven't gotten the nerf bat like the rest of the support roster.


so plz, explain yourself karma haters.


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BigPatches

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10-29-2012

She should be able to cast her movespeed buff while moving.


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capsulr

Senior Member

10-29-2012

unreliable heal, cant burst damage, there are much better ap champions


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WukongBR

Senior Member

10-29-2012

The loss of an ult isn't worth the 2 empowered abilities she gets with a long cooldown.

She has incredibly short AA range.

If you are in range to damage the enemy with your Q in a teamfight, you're in range to get smashed.

Her E is incredibly difficult to get damage off with, and is her only CC with a weak slow.

No one wants her as an AP mid because she doesn't offer anything the stronger mids do with the exception of a strong shield.

No one wants her as a support because all the sustain supports are better, and all the offensive supports are better.

There. Explained.


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Stephiroth

Senior Member

10-29-2012

Its mostly just her range and her lack of combo-ing ability vs other supports I think.

Like how Sona can roll fingers across keyboard and completely change a fight.

Karma is Mantra > one buff skill > Mantra > second buff skill > wait for CD on Mantra, hope your abilities do enough without the boost.

For AP, she just can't burst as hard as the current AP burst assassins(ahri, LB, kassadin, etc).

I wouldnt say she's bad, I just think she should be picked in specific match ups


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Peggy

Senior Member

10-29-2012

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Originally Posted by BigPatches View Post
She should be able to cast her movespeed buff while moving.
many champs have this issue and people have just learned to play around it.



keep going


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Tipttt

Senior Member

10-29-2012

A lot of people say others can do what she does better than she does.

I say that's bull****.

No one can shield nuke, cone heal/damage and speed boost liker her.

And she has pretty low cooldowns. She's a very efficient support and I don't think she's THAT underpowered.


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Stephiroth

Senior Member

10-29-2012

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Originally Posted by Tipttt View Post
A lot of people say others can do what she does better than she does.

I say that's bull****.

No one can shield nuke, cone heal/damage and speed boost liker her.

And she has pretty low cooldowns. She's a very efficient support and I don't think she's THAT underpowered.

I think it's not that she's subpar, but difficult against current hyper aggressive supports like Sona and Nunu.

Against like, a Soraka I think she would do exceptionally well(as long as her ADC wasn't super mana hungry)


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Zellvantes

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10-29-2012

She doesn't have hard CC (can't peel) and is only useful for sustain. She also needs AP to do anything, otherwise her heal and shield won't do much. She's pretty much a toned down AoE version of Sona, except without the ultimate and all those cool auras.


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Drukyul

Senior Member

10-29-2012

Without Mantra, Karma's spells are maybe 2/3 or 3/4 as useful as other casters' basic spells. 2 Mantra charges do not even come close to making up for that last 1/4 of usefulness plus the lack of an ultimate.


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