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Should Riven be nerfed?

Yes, Riven should be nerfed 161 33.06%
No, Riven should not be nerfed 326 66.94%
Voters 487 .

Riven Nerf in the next Patch

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MeThod

Member

12-31-2012

pika complains about a elo hell when he just sucks


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AA247

Senior Member

12-31-2012

her ult needs the cdr increase. Compared to older s1 champs its still nothing. j4 and renk have 120 sec ults while rivens is only a 110. Garen is 160


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Ledah

Junior Member

12-31-2012

How does this damage riven jungle?


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Empyrius

Senior Member

12-31-2012

1/2 hp/5 nerf-will lead to a 5-6% win rate loss i predict. Ult nerf will leed to a 7-10%. Overall shes at 53% win rate. After nerfs i predict she will be at 37%-42% win rates.


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Pîkapîka3

Member

12-31-2012

30 players voted yes 23.08%, 100 players voted no 76.92%. Riot a lot of players do not want riven nerf


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Empyrius

Senior Member

12-31-2012

Unfortantely this poll is bias, most people who enter here dont want riven nerfed. Devil's advocate.


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AzChuah

Junior Member

12-31-2012

You have to be joking if you think a +10 shield increase can accommodate for reduction of 5hp/5 regen.

She is a mid-game champion who has a sub-par late game.
Nerfing her early game ulti + regen will further weaken her late game - let alone, the massive group of top laners that can out-lane and out-sustain her.

Valor was designed to negate the harass that she barely recovers from anyway.

As riven, you are trading a stronger-than-average laning phase for a weaker-than-average late game.
Why do you think riven is never picked in pro tournaments in the first place?


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LunarisDream

Senior Member

12-31-2012

Quote:
Taikero:
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Edited quote for brevity.

Riven does NOT need a nerf. Your "way of maximum cooldown reduction" does not work on Riven and should not be built under any circumstances.

Zephyr on Riven. Really? Really? Why the hell would you give Riven an item that's primarily attack speed and movement speed?

And there is no way one can perfectly use Valor to block every single bit of harass to compensate for the loss in HP regen. Riven has 0 innate sustain as is, why make it worse?

Riven nerfs unnecessary.


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ryuuie

Member

12-31-2012

If Riot want to nerf the Riven they have to nerf Darius,Garen,Lee Sin,Jayce,Malphite,Pantheon and Shen first


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Zair Umbras

Senior Member

01-01-2013

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Pîchu:
Riven can only snowball as it is... She already has a really hard time recovering from losing a lane.


Riven loses her lane..? I don't know who you've been put against, but Riven has an incredible win rate when it comes to her own lane because of her sustain and one of the BEST early games, mainly because of rather low CDs, high bases and no need for mana. If you're snowballing or roaming as top lane, you're also probably not doing your job correctly. Top laners are meant to get feed and levels off minions as well as the opposing team's players. If you go to other lanes and take kills from those lanes, you're actually SCREWING your team because you're the bruiser, not the carry and your late game damage isn't going to compare to the ADCs, plus if you're out of lane, their top lane is going to get free farm and smacks at your turret.

Also, more on subject.. This nerf is barely a nerf because her sustain in lane is devastating to most. The only one who really compared was Garen, but Garen's sustain is from his passive, which if you play CORRECTLY, you poke him every few seconds to prevent his passive which with Riven's low CDs, it's not hard to keep Garen poked. Her damage wasn't touched, which is actually what makes her a good top laner and her ulti got some extra CD, but to be honest, she didn't need to be able to pop it to tower dive their top lane every time he got back in lane. Most tops can't take her damage because their own HP5 doesn't even begin to compare. We've also seen that Riot doesn't want insane amounts of passive sustain by how they got rid of FoN and made Warmogs into a unique passive. Overall, she's become a more aggressive champ than ever.


For those more worried about her jungle capabilities, because of the nerf to the jungle mob's healths, her heavy early game damage will kill the mobs quicker than they can do damage to her and if you pop your shield when ever it's up, she'll actually have seen a buff in the jungle because of the health nerf to jungle mobs AFTER she gets the shield, but overall, she'll be perfectly fine.


For those that are really, really butthurt, let's look at Sona's nerf. More people ranted about Sona's nerf and as we've all seen many times, Sona barely felt it! She was put under Anivia in health and didn't feel it. Rengar took a harder nerf to his HP5 and HE'S STILL TOP LANING. These nerfs are going to hit, we're going to adapt, and Riven will shrug off the blow and prove she's still the queen of the top lane.