@Riot: Guerilla/trap team is broken in blind pick. Do something.

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IS1499b7451e02f41f2e03d

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01-14-2013

Disclaimer: I'm talking about Blind Pick normals where you can't counterpick.


They are completely disgusting and 100% pure frustration to play against.

I'm talking about teams centered on Blitzcrank's pull.

Example: Blitzcrank, Nidalee, Teemo, Ashe, Malphite

They will play cautiously in lane phase, carry farming up near their tower. Nidalee plays defensively before 6, becomes near uncatchable with ult. Teemo becomes near uncatchable with Move Quick. Lane phase ends.
They spam wards, traps and mushrooms to gain absolute superior map and jungle control.
If you try to clear the wards or mushrooms with oracle, they will be waiting in the jungle, initiating with grab, Malph-ult or arrow. If you try to push and take a tower, the same happens, you get grabbed into the jungle or your team gets initiated on with multiple AoE stuns. If you try to split-push, they will poke with Nidalee spears and grab and then initiate and wipe your 4 out, probably taking multiple towers in the process.
Any of your own wards get cleared by oracle Malph, Teemo or Nida.

Seems uncounterable by a run-of-the-mill cookiecutter team. Basically the game is lost in the character screen because skill does not matter much when the enemy team can control the flow of every single initiate and teamfight.


I'd love to hear how you counter this sort of team with items and skill only. Remember counterpicking isn't possible.


-DO NOT SUGGEST CHAMPION BASED COUNTERS
-DO NOT SUGGEST IGNORING BLIND PICK MODE
(hurr durr "it's not balanced")
If you are here to post either, please just go away.
This topic is about how something needs to be done if no non-champion-based counter exists in blind against this composition. If the only solution is counterpicking or banning, then something needs to be done.


The easiest solution by far is to make the PTR version of the item Hextech Sweeper available in Summoner's Rift. (can detect traps)


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Destaice

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01-14-2013

"blind picks"

lol no


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AHeroNamedHawke1

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01-14-2013

The game isnt balanced around blind pick nublet


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Calling Clouds

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01-14-2013

I suggest applying generous amounts of lube to ease the pain.


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AcrobaticApricot

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01-14-2013

Beat them in lane, group mid game and force objectives

Since they are buying a bunch of oracles elixirs you will snowball very hard after winning teamfights


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Brennivin

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01-14-2013

The only way to counter good teamwork is with equally good, or better teamwork... in my opinion.


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Saruyan

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01-14-2013

sounds like the ol roaming meta.

you know what happened to the roaming meta? it died out, for the one we're currently in actually.


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Ireliateyou

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01-14-2013

You realize Blind Pick is imbalanced because you have 0 opportunity to counterpick, right?


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AlphariusRising

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01-14-2013

What's stopping you from warding too?


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IS1499b7451e02f41f2e03d

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01-14-2013

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Originally Posted by AlphariusRising View Post
What's stopping you from warding too?
The enemy team. If you try to ward you will run into their traps and wards, where they will be waiting to grab you.

It all stems from the imbalance of Blitzcrank's grab, and the non-removability of Nidalee's/Caitlyn's(alternate for Ashe) traps without triggering them.


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