ITT: People who don't understand math.
Elo Hell does not exist. It is an excuse used by people to explain why they lose a majority of their games. Like someone else had said, as long as you are not the problem and you are a better player than the Elo bracket you are currently in (you 'deserve' higher Elo), you will rise in Elo. This is FACT, and how Elo works.
If there is a feeder in the game, there is a greater chance for them to be on the enemy team than your own. Because Elo works as an average between many games, this works in your favor as feeders/trolls/leavers/bad players will cause you to GAIN Elo more frequently than LOSING Elo. If you continue losing Elo, then it holds true that YOU are the problem, not your team. It's statistics; basic math.
Elo Hell does NOT exist. It is merely an excuse to cover up what Elo your average gameplay has set you in. Read: YOUR gameplay, not your teamates.
every argument selcopa makes is "get better, I woulda won that game" and none of my points or complaints are geared towards a platinum player escaping elo hell, if that fundamental fact isnt clear to you, and your only solution is "get as good as 1600 elo players if you want to reach 1400 elo" then I ask you, how do I get that good if all I see is 3 people a game going 2-10. I cant tell them not to push alone, cuz I get reported for having a negative attitude. I cant stop 5 people from colapsing on them, and I cant stop 5 people from destroying towers on my own. Fact is, its a team game, and to beat a team of 1300 elo people with 3 feeders on my team just isnt feasable for someone that belongs in the 1300 elo. Do the 2-10 feeders belong there? obviously not, if your in a game and your outmatched that badly you dont belong there, so please tell me why they are there if elo accurately reflects your skill.
I personally believe in elo hell lol
grats on being pro player with soft elo reset bs lol
look pro players get stuck in elo hell. It's real. It happens. Idk how you don't see it? Maybe you're trying to make some money? liiiiike?
and for that whole bs about "well if elo hell didnt exist then why are people paying for duo queue assistance?"
That's a terrible argument. It's obvious you will most likely do better just because of the fact you are duo queue. Simple. -1 troll/new guy. +1 better player......... less chance of leaver... etc...
I mean I solo queue.. solo. lol. Probably a terrible idea. But I do it. It always ends up being tossed over to luck. It happens.
If elo hell really didn't exist.. why is it a name? why is there no elo hell in sc2? Because there is no elo system lol. You start from 0.. its not that complex....
Get better? Buy this and that... doit.. all poor responses to someone who is getting that terrible draw in the 1200-1400 or below queue.
I honestly have little no real faith in the system anymore. I really feel like.. okay, if im gonna get anywhere above the norm (elo hell) its not really going to be all my skill that decides it. It's just not. Essentially from the fact that it's a team game but moreso because of so many factors in play u cant even list.
Why so many of you "pro" players feel it necessary to deny the idea of an elo hell is beyond me. I think you might have better luck? Thats all im saying lol. How many games with a ranking system have as much animocity towards their system as leagues? none. Leagues hands down has the worst system right now. Its almost a joke. But feel free to continue to act as if there is no such thing. That its the single players fault for not climbing. "get good or stfu" is just some real nerdy-egotism that's appalling lol.
Enjoy that soft elo reset though. Best players are in elo hell. Always lol. But also the ones with the worst luck.
People deny elo hell because there isn't any point from which you can't escape assuming you play well enough to be at a higher rating. Statistically speaking, even solo queuing, the other team is always more likely to have worse players than you (if you are at an elo lower than where you belong) and over the course of enough games you will arrive where you belong.
And no, 1v1 games don't have an elo hell because bad players have no one to blame but themselves.
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