Lightbringer change on PBE

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Chaosos

Senior Member

12-21-2012

If we're going for itemization counters to champions...

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Unique Active: Drop a destructible rift-breaker that lasts for 10 seconds. Enemies that attempt to blink (Not dash, blink), within 700 units are instead teleported to the riftbreaker, and the riftbreaker is destroyed. 60s CD, has the health of a ward.


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Duelpower

Senior Member

12-22-2012

Does anyone else feel like the attack speed on the original made the item for ranged dps? Why can't we just add some critical strike to the current version and give it the unique sweeper active?

Lantern I feel is an item that better suits bruisers who do not itemize for attack speed. The people I would buy lightbringer on however were ranged dps champions.

If the active is named then it is unique and will not stack with lantern or sweeper actives.


I would imagine it something like this:
+50% Attack Speed
+20 Attack Damage
+20% Critical Strike Chance
Unique Active [Stealth Detect]: A stealth-detecting mist grants vision in the target area for 10 seconds (60 second cooldown).

Recipe:
Recurve Bow + Long Sword + Cloak of Agility


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Das Strychnine

Senior Member

12-22-2012

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Originally Posted by TOP10 ELO View Post
The Lightbringer

Item cost 2425
Builds out of Soulsight Lantern and Pick Axe
Attack Damage 50
Grants 20 armor.
Grants 12% life steal.
New Unique passive - Vanquish: Basic attacks have a 20% chance to deal 100 bonus magic damage ( damage doubled for non-champions )
New Unique active - A stealth detecting mist grants vision of the target area for 10 seconds ( 60 second cooldown )


All set and good unless you pay attention to the items it builds and check that this item gives no bonus stats just a useless 100 magic dmg on 20% chance for 300 gold.
Worst change ever made on dominion. Nome disappoint us
No attack speed
No crit
Armor


Thanks for another bruiser item Nome. Bruisers need help.


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Tortferngatr

Senior Member

12-22-2012

I'd be in favor of having it build from Recurve Bow+Lantern, mainly for the reasons people have described regarding the ability of AD carries to use it over bruisers.

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Originally Posted by RiotNome View Post
It hard counters the primary method players use those abilities, yes. But then again, so does Oracle's, so this isn't really a new precedent. It's a 450 distance reveal range, so a Teemo or Shaco can still certainly lure you into a trap if you're not paying attention, or if they drop a trap in the middle of a fight, it's just as useful.


It won't be on Hextech Sweeper for now, since it's rather late to put stuff in for next patch (it gives our QA a lot more work). It will likely show up next-next patch. Until then, no passive name.
Should Hextech receive a counterpart item?


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Redenbacher

Senior Member

12-22-2012

Shouldn't every class be able to use the only reveal items? Why should it be restricted to AD carries? AD casters and bruisers alike can make use of reveal and distribute responsibility amongst the team. AD makes it ubiquitous so any AD champion on the team can grab it. AS or Crit restricts it to one class alone.

Besides, I don't think bruisers are exactly jumping up and down to dump gold on 20 armor, 50 AD, and 12% lifesteal unless they really need the reveal. There are bigger defensive/offensive hybrid items that offer HP and/or larger quantities of armor/mr.


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naotasan

Senior Member

12-22-2012

Passive name: Sixth Sense


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Das Strychnine

Senior Member

12-23-2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redenbacher View Post
Shouldn't every class be able to use the only reveal items? Why should it be restricted to AD carries? AD casters and bruisers alike can make use of reveal and distribute responsibility amongst the team. AD makes it ubiquitous so any AD champion on the team can grab it. AS or Crit restricts it to one class alone.

Besides, I don't think bruisers are exactly jumping up and down to dump gold on 20 armor, 50 AD, and 12% lifesteal unless they really need the reveal. There are bigger defensive/offensive hybrid items that offer HP and/or larger quantities of armor/mr.

Maybe because they already have great itemization in this map while AD Carries have nothing?


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Volandum

Senior Member

12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Redenbacher View Post
Besides, I don't think bruisers are exactly jumping up and down to dump gold on 20 armor, 50 AD, and 12% lifesteal unless they really need the reveal. There are bigger defensive/offensive hybrid items that offer HP and/or larger quantities of armor/mr.
Well, bruisers certainly ARE jumping up and down to grab the Lantern, and it falls foul of all your objections.


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MyDeadGrandma

Senior Member

12-23-2012

You know, you could always have light-bringer track champs hit, but not reveal stealth champs al la kogmaw's ult.

But let's be honest, lightbringer only hard countered two heroes that relied on mid-combat stealth: Akali and Vayne. Maybe Shaco.


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Dominus Arts

Member

12-23-2012

The truth behind item changes
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