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Lightbringer change on PBE

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Malah

Senior Member

12-21-2012

Dead to me.


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George W Nome

Game Designer

12-21-2012

Adding a new passive onto it.

UNIQUE Passive: Reveals nearby stealthed traps.


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VoidInsanity

Senior Member

12-21-2012

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RiotNome:
Adding a new passive onto it.

UNIQUE Passive: Reveals nearby stealthed traps.


Can we get something similar for the sweeper too?


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DiscworldDeath

Senior Member

12-21-2012

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RiotNome:
Adding a new passive onto it.

UNIQUE Passive: Reveals nearby stealthed traps.


GG Teemo. GG.


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Redenbacher

Senior Member

12-21-2012

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RiotNome:
Adding a new passive onto it.

UNIQUE Passive: Reveals nearby stealthed traps.


Please define 'trap'.

5 champions in a bush could be considered a 'stealth trap'.


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Orphane

Senior Member

12-21-2012

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RiotNome:
Adding a new passive onto it.

UNIQUE Passive: Reveals nearby stealthed traps.


To clarify, this applies to Teemo shrooms and less importantly Shaco boxes, right?

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Nome if you push this onto live cries of joy will be heard around the world. Please do.


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Das Strychnine

Senior Member

12-21-2012

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DiscworldDeath:
Before you had no active, they could hide in the brush and 100-0 you half the time anyway, as an AD Carry.

Bruisers who get the jump on ADCs usually annihilate them... what are you talking about?



Not really, Vayne, Caitlyn, Ezreal, Kayle, Tristana (late game), Draven (with some good kiting), Kogmaw ( see draven/tristana), can all pretty much kill bruisers 1v1, granted that yes you can't stand there and let them hit you/stun you, with some good kiting it's very possible. With lightbringer bot lane if a a Bruiser initiates on you (eg: uses gap closer) if you get a good disengage you could punish them with AAs and force them to back off or take lots of dmg, now they can just go back in their brush and the only thing you can do is use your active but it has a long cooldown and it's not always optimal. You can't just follow them in the brush because now you're pretty much giving yourself to them on a plate.


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wingstreet

Senior Member

12-21-2012

i support that lightbringer idea 10000000000000000000%


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Orphane

Senior Member

12-21-2012

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Das Strychnine:
Not really, Vayne, Caitlyn, Ezreal, Kayle, Tristana (late game), Draven (with some good kiting), Kogmaw ( see draven/tristana), can all pretty much kill bruisers 1v1, granted that yes you can't stand there and let them hit you/stun you, with some good kiting it's very possible. With lightbringer bot lane if a a Bruiser initiates on you (eg: uses gap closer) if you get a good disengage you could punish them with AAs and force them to back off or take lots of dmg, now they can just go back in their brush and the only thing you can do is use your active but it has a long cooldown and it's not always optimal. You can't just follow them in the brush because now you're pretty much giving yourself to them on a plate.


With old lightbringer you never saw them coming to begin with, and now you can avoid ganks with an on-demand reveal that doesn't require you already having sight on a target AND being in aa range. Old lightbringer was simply outperformed by PD in every situation except the edge case of "I want to keep vision on a fleeing target" but if you were an AD carry chasing someone into the jungle you were making a piss poor decision anyways.

The new lightbringer is better because it builds out of Grez's Lantern, which is OP and should be gotten on nearly every AD champ period, and doesn't compete with PD/Shiv for the attack speed slot while being subpar to them.


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Kholdstare13

Senior Member

12-21-2012

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RiotNome:
Adding a new passive onto it.

UNIQUE Passive: Reveals nearby stealthed traps.


That would complete the solution to a "permanent oracle's", since the 2 functions are to sweep traps and counter stealth (which the active mist does). Great all-around (minus the hordes of raging Teemos). Still favors melee.

Thoughts on giving that to a different Grez' upgrade as well as a new sweeper upgrade, and reworking lightbringer into a chase/anti-juke tool for ranged? (on-hit reveal through fog and bush only, not stealth)