Riots Job Requirements are ridiculous

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Berri Bunny

Senior Member

12-18-2012

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Originally Posted by Flourescence View Post
I didn't say anyone did. Do YOU have a problem reading?
Why are you constantly spouting off about irrelevant garbage is the real question.


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Berri Bunny

Senior Member

12-18-2012

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How many years of schooling did you attend to nerf Irelia Morello?
^ Proof of Morello not knowing jack ****.


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Berri Bunny

Senior Member

12-18-2012

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Originally Posted by Falleth View Post
I'm not sure basement dweller should be talking there.
Nice fragment (consider revising).


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Levnik Moore

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12-18-2012

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Originally Posted by Sythest View Post
No offense, but how do companies expect young and fresh minds with requirements like those? It's those type of companies, those that don't even take the time to grant on the job experience and see how it pans out that leave college kids feeling nervous when they graduate. I see what you're saying about companies having a set standard but there are tricks at a great job that you can learn that you would learn in a class room with many other people.
You realize that hiring someone is an investment?


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Calys Teneb

Senior Member

12-18-2012

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Originally Posted by Morello View Post
Honestly, this. School and education are valuable, but a degree does not get you a job, it lets you start trying to get a job that requires a degree. There's no entitlement from having a degree that gets you a job.

Requirements aren't there to make people feel warm and fuzzy, they're there to make sure people have the appropriate skillset. Some jobs are fine with less experience (design can be one of these!), others are not.
I wish my grandparents would read this. I've been going to school off and on for about five or six years, but in between I do a lot of contract work at Microsoft or Amazon working on app stores, Kinect, or Xbox. My experience is more valuable to me than focusing on a degree with no experience to back it up.

A degree helps but experience is boss, from what I've seen of this industry, for most positions.


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Elsea

Senior Member

12-18-2012

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Originally Posted by Berri Bunny View Post
Why are you constantly spouting off about irrelevant garbage is the real question.


Indeed, I see that your totally on topic insults about grammar while asking questions without proper punctuation, and that your totally relevant one liners are the works of a troll with a very bad sense of humour, but I will continue to humour you, troll.


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Calys Teneb

Senior Member

12-18-2012

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Originally Posted by Sythest View Post
No offense, but how do companies expect young and fresh minds with requirements like those? It's those type of companies, those that don't even take the time to grant on the job experience and see how it pans out that leave college kids feeling nervous when they graduate. I see what you're saying about companies having a set standard but there are tricks at a great job that you can learn that you would learn in a class room with many other people.
Experience =/= job experience. A lot of people think this. You can gain experience in programming, design, art, without having to be hired for it. You just have to show that you can produce and that what you produce shows the experience you claim. That's the purpose of a portfolio.


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Montag

Player Experience Manager

12-18-2012
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Originally Posted by Vodka and Kush View Post
wtf rofl..thats just a few
We only hire the best few.


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Levj

Senior Member

12-18-2012

I see two groups of people here. Entitlement based people and everyone else. In this economy you should be thrilled anyone is hiring.


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Morello

Lead Designer

12-18-2012
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Originally Posted by Kaosovic View Post
@Morello

Hey Morello, I'm curious. Your voice carries a lot of weight on here. Without making this personal, I know most of the LoL crew are fairly young just by watching the live tournament casts, what qualifies top leadership within Riot for LoL? Considering the impact of the company I think it's neat to see such a successful project in the hand of a younger generation.

I mean to say, does having the vision to innovate around a largely successful product category and constantly update according to demand characterize the skill set? Or is it more a leadership style.

I know you have a variety of skills on the team - macro data analysts, programmers, artists, hr programs I imagine, etc. a professionalized environment. So what distinguishes top brass at Riot?

Just curious if you can answer this in a transparent way. I always wonder how people of young tech companies fit the bill, and given Riot's success, you guys have something going for you.
Good question, let me try to do it justice.

Some of it is raw ability in your field (such as design, art, etc), but leadership and senior contributor are different paths, with different requirements. Let me talk a bit about that;

Imagine someone that is an amazing game designer, but doesn't like leading people and coaching them. This would lead them onto the path of Principle Designer. This path has them doing more and more difficult designs, but without being the core leader (though all design requires some leadership at Riot). Someone like Xypherous is a great example.

Alternatively, someone who is a great designer who also can coach, mentor, set direction and lead goes into leadership - jobs like Lead Champion/Lead Live Designer, Lead Designer, Design Director, or VP of Game Design. You do less game design in these roles, day-to-day, but handle strategic issues and spend more time with people than with scripts. I fall squarely into this category these days, as does Zileas.

Both roles require a mastery of craft, but they focus on different strengths and have different workdays. I spend a LOT of time in meetings or working with individual designers on game theory or helping them when they're in the weeds. A Principle designer (we have none yet since we have a pretty inexperienced team overall - many of our designers are first-time designers, including all the ones you guys know!) would be devising new systems or even entire game pitches, unraveling the toughest design challenges and other difficult problems, and implementing it themselves.

For Leadership, though, you have to have the ability to work strategically, collaborate like a mother****er, and look at the big picture. Additionally, I think it's a requirement to be able to motivate and inspire people, resolve conflict effectively and keep things objective and goal-oriented.