Riots Job Requirements are ridiculous

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Noobgrenade

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12-18-2012

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Oh the terror of a Project IRL is nothing compared to School Projects. School Projects are 100x easier because everything is given to you.
This. Also you've got to explain to a boss (who very likely knows almost nothing about software) why it takes the time it takes and why the last fifty features he thought up can't get in before release.


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Comedian

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12-18-2012

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i worked at microsoft, on the xbox360 launch and as qa for perfect dark zero. That experience + being in a top guild got me in as qa for arenanet, where i later became a designer.
I loved that game!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


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FlyMoto

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12-18-2012

As a young developer, 2010 graduate, and now working for a good well known software company, my thoughts follow:

1) Most students are completely blindsided that there aren't instantly great jobs once you get out of colleges. I think both schools themselves as well as TV/Movies do a bad job of portraying how hard it is to get a great job out of college (or rather, make it seem like it is a simple and easy transition).

2) There are tons of students graduating and only so many positions at the best companies. If you want a position you need to stand out. A solid GPA is not it - you need essentially a perfect GPA from the best of the best to stand out based on school alone. You need experience and/or something to SHOW what you've done and are capable of doing. In fact, many of the people I work with would take someone with 1.5-2 solid years of work experience over a 4 year degree.

3) Internships are the best way of getting experience. I 'wasted' my college summers with your standard college job to help me pay for it (I also did a study abroad completely unrelated to engineering which the most I could hope to get out of was a conversation piece in an interview). Those with internships across the board in my graduating class (2010) were getting jobs or turning internships into full-time positions.

4) If internships just don't work out and/or aren't feasible, find other ways to show your knowledge. If you are into software at all get a github account, find projects to help with, make up your own (++ for this one), contribute to open-source software, and/or make a website where you can show off some stuff. If your interests are in something like design... design stuff, make a website, and show it off. In marketing? Try to see if you can do something for a local non-profit. Communications/Business/Human-resources type jobs? Find a school organization you can try to be a leader in.

5) If you don't have any of the above, pretty much expect a lesser starting position somewhere. Work your way up. Get experience that will get you in the door - this is what I did. This is harder to find but can work. I personally took a job that paid considerably less than (~60% of) what my school told me was the average salary for new engineers. This was my path as I didn't have the most stellar GPA and while I went to a good school it was not quite top-10-in-the-nation.

Basically, just doing college and spending all of your free time in playing LoL isn't going to get you an amazing job. Have something to stand out and you won't have a problem. It honestly doesn't even need to be a lot to stand out from the others around you - a couple projects here or there and you are done (got 1000 hours logged in LoL? Try taking 50-100 of that over a period of time and doing something productive and you'll stand out SOOO much more).


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SLRMercedes

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12-18-2012

chill out, bro

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Why am I not surprised that you were part of absolute garbage?


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Dokmazing

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12-18-2012

ROFL a stretch? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Did you also apply for Apple?


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Berri Bunny

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12-18-2012

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chill out, bro
Dumb.


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Riot Morgageddon

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12-18-2012

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I worked at Microsoft, on the XBox360 launch and as QA for Perfect Dark Zero. That experience + being in a top guild got me in as QA for ArenaNet, where I later became a designer.
Thanks for the information, that sounds like it was a great start for your career. I'm waiting hear back and see if I'm starting in QA at Riot, so here's hoping.
Keep on tanking!


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Morello

Lead Designer

12-18-2012
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Originally Posted by FlyMoto View Post
As a young developer, 2010 graduate, and now working for a good well known software company, my thoughts follow:

1) Most students are completely blindsided that there aren't instantly great jobs once you get out of colleges. I think both schools themselves as well as TV/Movies do a bad job of portraying how hard it is to get a great job out of college (or rather, make it seem like it is a simple and easy transition).

2) There are tons of students graduating and only so many positions at the best companies. If you want a position you need to stand out. A solid GPA is not it - you need essentially a perfect GPA from the best of the best to stand out based on school alone. You need experience and/or something to SHOW what you've done and are capable of doing. In fact, many of the people I work with would take someone with 1.5-2 solid years of work experience over a 4 year degree.

3) Internships are the best way of getting experience. I 'wasted' my college summers with your standard college job to help me pay for it (I also did a study abroad completely unrelated to engineering which the most I could hope to get out of was a conversation piece in an interview). Those with internships across the board in my graduating class (2010) were getting jobs or turning internships into full-time positions.

4) If internships just don't work out and/or aren't feasible, find other ways to show your knowledge. If you are into software at all get a github account, find projects to help with, make up your own (++ for this one), contribute to open-source software, and/or make a website where you can show off some stuff. If your interests are in something like design... design stuff, make a website, and show it off. In marketing? Try to see if you can do something for a local non-profit. Communications/Business/Human-resources type jobs? Find a school organization you can try to be a leader in.

5) If you don't have any of the above, pretty much expect a lesser starting position somewhere. Work your way up. Get experience that will get you in the door - this is what I did. This is harder to find but can work. I personally took a job that paid considerably less than (~60% of) what my school told me was the average salary for new engineers. This was my path as I didn't have the most stellar GPA and while I went to a good school it was not quite top-10-in-the-nation.

Basically, just doing college and spending all of your free time in playing LoL isn't going to get you an amazing job. Have something to stand out and you won't have a problem. It honestly doesn't even need to be a lot to stand out from the others around you - a couple projects here or there and you are done (got 1000 hours logged in LoL? Try taking 50-100 of that over a period of time and doing something productive and you'll stand out SOOO much more).
I somewhat agree with you Fly - I think playing a lot of games though needs to come with something outstanding about the time you spent there. Being a pro-level player can get you visibility and knowledge, if you want to work on a specific project. Classick got in by developing a player/developer relationship with Zileas in beta, and Zileas started seeing him as a go-to for good gameplay analysis. I actually did the same in GW.

But, to your point, standing out and being exceptionable in some way is important and cannot be ignored - agreed. I'm always of the belief that exceptional people are in the habit of behaving in a way that is exceptional.


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Devilgoat

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12-18-2012

If only that post-MBA manager job had been posted a year later, I'd drop the JD part and be all over this. A little surprised compensation is on the level of high-tier tech firms though, good to see Riot is doing well.


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jebroni

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12-18-2012

My graduating class for cs: 23% went to Google. So basically when my school said ppl will be at our doorsteps asking to hire they were correct.