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a1sock:
no one likes the zyra nerfs... if it was really to stop zyra from being too strong or dominant of a support champ, make her crave money more. Simple way to do that is to give her a higher ap ratio along with the damage nerfs to her abilities, so she does less damage if underfarmed and more damage/same damage as she does now if she has decent ap.
I like playing against zyra and playing as zyra, its fun to get combos off and do tons of suprise damage, a good balance of trying to get damage in and not get your health melted. Playing against her I like how you can either choose to try and walk over a plant and just take the damage or root, or dodge both and either work on her or her plants. Different ways to deal with one champ allows you to catch them off guard, always find it hilarious when you have a movement skill and smash her seeds as she thinks shes going to melt you, its like k, try that again when you have everything on cooldown...
I couldn't agree more, I love going against a zyra support cause I can stomp on her complete lack of sustain/escape, all riot did was make zyra even harder to play as an ap mid, I just played a BOT game to see how much the nerfs affected her grasp and passive and her passive is so slow now that all the bots had to do was walk backwards and it didn't hit them... BOTS... I couldn't land it on BOTS. How about you just remove her passive all together and instead put a picture of phreak giving us the finger...
As far as grasping roots you can really feel it, obviously mid champs that counter her easily ie. Akali, Diana, Katarina, Leblanc, Fizz, etc will have an even easier time rofl stomping you and you'll be less likely to stop an incoming gank as they can now more easily dodge what was already pretty hard to land at a distance. But even worse than that the champs that you should do well against, ie. Karthus, Vlad, Ryze, Viktor, Teemo, Annie etc. will just have to walk slightly to the left or right to counter you because everyone got a move speed buff. The only thing that made zyra viable mid (post 1st nerfs) was that if you were in an emergency and you had the skill you could land a root at distance and get out of there.( no point landing a root when they on top of you, you still dead)
When you have a pure skill shot champion they should be rewarded for the skill of positioning and timing required to land combos, dont make it harder for pure skill shot champs to work, let the ppl who dont have the skill to dodge learn by getting stomped on until they get better.......