Prepare for incoming Black Cleaver overnerf....

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FriendlyRaid

Senior Member

12-13-2012

Why did they release Black Cleaver with a non-unique passive? Riot knows from experience that players will stack non-unique passives, like say when Sunfire Cape's passive wasn't unique, so why would Riot do this?

Now that AD casters and melee characters have a decent item, because Riot didn't make the passive unique and everyone is using it, Riot thinks the thing needs to be nerfed into the ground.

I have an idea, how about you just make the passive unique, like you should have in the first place, and then re-evaluate the item in a week or two? But if they do the PBE nerf, this thing will stink and we'll all go back to the big three: Infinity Edge, Trinity Force, and Rab Cap.

Builds were finally starting to look a little more diverse, and after they nerf Black Cleaver everything will go back to the way it was. Riot I really don't understand you guys sometimes.


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From PR

Senior Member

12-13-2012

why are u crying?


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Mathemagically

Member

12-13-2012

Make it unique and make it melee only. It's now good and only good on AD casters.


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Resurgam

Member

12-14-2012

TO be pretty honest - if Riot overnerfs BC they are making a huge mistake - now virtually now AD caster will be able to shred through armor in time enough to deal with other things - infact the whole team might jsut have as well gone to hell - because they wont be able to deal with it either. If u you have no armor pen item thats strong enough - then how can you dish enough dmg with out wasting your time and in the end dying to overly ARMOR stacked -3 warmogs, maokai or alli, or even an amumu. What? stack atmas or lws?


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Grombolar

Senior Member

12-14-2012

The passive was never the problem and it's still not unique. The flat ArPen was the problem and it has been reduced and is now unique. It's not named though like some of the new items so it will stack with Brut and Yomu's.


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ACGIFT

Senior Member

12-14-2012

One of the main issues is that it was downright stupid that at least half of all tops were building 3 or 4 of these things at a time. By making that armor pen unique, that will quickly end it.

The item is STILL rather powerful; just that everyone's going to moan and whine that it was nerfed into oblivion just because it wasn't AS overpowered as they wanted.

I think their real complaint is that they now have to actually THINK a bit more on what to build. One tip might be to go what was perhaps wanted for tops all along: just go Black Cleaver + Youmu's: the armor pen and CDR will stack between the two, and Youmu's active will help you burst in the BC's passive.