Ice Frog and Valve...

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youthere

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10-12-2010

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Do we know if it will be free to play ?
If yes, yes it gonna hurt LoL a lot.
I assume it will be a one time buy type deal, I can only hope so. I don't really think the whole microtransactions thing works for this genre... at all.


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JunkRamen

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10-12-2010

Competition is a good thing.


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SlyGoat

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10-12-2010

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I just didn't really care for how he handled DoTA after he took over.

That and he's kind of shady.
Somewhat disagree with your first point. IceFrog is honestly a better designer than anyone working at Riot; he churns out **** like Invoker, Clockwerk, PotM, Batrider, etc. and takes community suggestions for awesome stuff like Puck. But I do agree that the overall metagame of DotA has stagnated since icefrog took over, which is why I quit - but then, the same thing is starting to happen with LoL.

Totally agree on the second point. IceFrog does a lot of **** that makes him hard to like as a person. But I respect his work on DotA, and LoL would probably not have the playerbase it does if not for IceFrog's continued development which seriously raised DotA's popularity (and by association set LoL up for the same popularity - huge amount of LoL players are former DotA players or friends of former DotA players)


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AnyOtherEnemy

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10-12-2010

The real question is will it have spectator mode?


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Unclephillip

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10-12-2010

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I just didn't really care for how he handled DoTA after he took over.

That and he's kind of shady.
What does being shady have to do with being a good game designer?

Considering he solo balances the entire game I'd expect him to be pretty busy.


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Tyhan

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10-12-2010

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HL2 was disappointing. However, episodes 1 and 2 were not.

I never got into CS, but it did single handedly changed the face of multiplayer gaming.

Goes without saying TF2 is ****ing amazing.
TF2 is a nice change of pace because it's a unique FPS while still being fun. CS setup the best first person shooter genre ever popular for years only to be then replaced with CoD ripoffs. My god do I hate CoD4 and MW2.

L4D I would have to argue is Valve's best game since the original Half-Life. Episode 1 sucked worse than HL2. Episode 2 was alright though.


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Unclephillip

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10-12-2010

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Totally agree on the second point. IceFrog does a lot of **** that makes him hard to like as a person.
Such as?


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Unclephillip

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10-12-2010

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HL2 was disappointing. However, episodes 1 and 2 were not.

I never got into CS, but it did single handedly changed the face of multiplayer gaming.

Goes without saying TF2 is ****ing amazing.
HL2 was considered one of the best games of the year (possibly even all time). What the hell did you find disappointing about it?


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b4pdash

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10-12-2010

why are we talking about CS? Valve didnt make CS, they just bought it and ported it into source


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MASSTADEN

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10-12-2010

my body is ready