Riot, are you seriously nerfing brutalizer?

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koticgood

Senior Member

12-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Zrasher View Post
Armor penetration was calculated the same as now in season 1, when brutalizer existed with the same stats
Not sure why you're getting downvotes. I didn't play back then (was still playin dota =p), but I've heard that it used to be that way. Maybe brutalizer came out after they changed it? Or people just being silly with the downvotes.


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Eloquid

Senior Member

12-11-2012

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Originally Posted by celloguy View Post
%pen is now calculated before, significantly increasing the power of flat pen, so they slightly nerf flat pen.
Flat is flat dude, that's why it's called flat. What's increased is power of %pen. Percentage of bigger number is bigger, that's why % before flat is more nasty.


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koticgood

Senior Member

12-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Muzzled View Post
because now it builds into black cleaver
That line of thought is the exact problem, and makes absolutely no sense. If Black Cleaver is the problem, then deal with Black Cleaver. Brutalizer has always had the same stats, and should not be nerfed just because it builds into an item that needs to be nerfed.


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mambawarrior0

Senior Member

12-11-2012

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Originally Posted by celloguy View Post
They need to rebalance flat pen because of the change in how pen is calculated
They made AD cheaper at the same time.


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koticgood

Senior Member

12-12-2012

bump


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hes op

Senior Member

12-12-2012

brutalizer got indirectly buffed because it builds into black cleaver, you can't ignore that fact.


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NaJin Slash

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Senior Member

12-12-2012

Brutalizer is like the Trundle of items lol.


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iHuntt

Junior Member

12-12-2012

I just don't understand how these people have jobs to balance lol and they just continually make lazy stupid decisions....


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Kwisatz Haderach

Senior Member

12-12-2012

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Originally Posted by Bestial Death View Post
brutalizer got indirectly buffed because it builds into black cleaver, you can't ignore that fact.
you might be right since Haunting Guise can build into stuff now (on SR) and it got nerfed


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Xenolithium

Member

12-12-2012

-Looks at match history-

Ah, thought so.


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