Black Cleaver nerf NEEDS to be a hotfix. It CANNOT wait.

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OvernightSiren

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12-08-2012

I'm not someone that believes every game, or any game, HAS to be played by the meta; but the current state of Black Cleaver has COMPLETELY destroyed the meta for people that actually enjoy playing by the meta. AD Casters are simply TOO strong once they get a black cleaver, and once they get TWO it's nearly impossible to win. 3 games tonight have been lost/almost lost because suddenly the difficulty spike went up when the enemy's AD casters got their cleavers.

I really don't think this nerf should wait until the next patch, I think this situation IS that bad.


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Dragoonix

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12-08-2012

health is complicated i guess.


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OvernightSiren

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12-08-2012

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health is complicated i guess.
So you should have to build health on characters that shouldn't need to be tanky, just to SURVIVE, and sacrifice doing actual damage in the process?


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12-08-2012

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So you should have to build health on characters that shouldn't need to be tanky, just to SURVIVE, and sacrifice doing actual damage in the process?
Yes your adc has to get warmogs to counter it?


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Nephilum

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12-08-2012

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health is complicated i guess.
I love it when the AP tries to counter this by building health. Bruisers run them over like a truck because AP do no damage when they dont build for it and bruisers are still kind of tanky even w/out tanky items


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Voidgolem

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12-08-2012

Random thought: Stop rushing chalice/liandry's/whateverthehell, start rushing RoA.

Suddenly that mean ol' Talon just doesn't have the burst to actually kill you.


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Nokbane

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12-08-2012

Dang do I have to explain everything? Counter their Black Cleavers with your own Black Cleavers and profit!


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îCe

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12-08-2012

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Random thought: Stop rushing chalice/liandry's/whateverthehell, start rushing RoA.

Suddenly that mean ol' Talon just doesn't have the burst to actually kill you.
So then he starts roaming and kills your jungle and top and bot. True story


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Voidgolem

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12-08-2012

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So then he starts roaming and kills your jungle and top and bot. True story
This happens regardless of Cleavers. Happened even in S2.

Same problem with Kat/Diana and their giant Mpen builds.


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Farm

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12-08-2012

Yes RIOT nerf it NOW i'm losing my games just because of this item and nothing else


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