At this rate I feel like their is no AP meta anymore.

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TT Dreadnaught

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12-08-2012

Oh No!!! You mean everything thats ever happened to AD Bruisers ever has now started happening to AP bursters ??Dear god what will we do !!!!

Don' worry faith, Most of the higher end design team are mage players, Cleaver nerfs are already on the PBE.


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Viktorious Alekt

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12-08-2012

Liandry gives a damn "Current HP % dmg" It's barely noticeable. And it is a non stackable over-time DoT. It's nothing like Blade of the Ruined king instant "4% current HP dmg". I don't see it complimenting an important proportion of the current AP casters.


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Viktorious Alekt

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12-08-2012

Fed mages don't seem to have the same effect as before.


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Fashbinder

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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by MG ƒaìth View Post
Mostly every game I have bruisers going mid because of the cleavers.
Counterplay and build 1 chain vest for every 3 cleavers they have.

OR

Do nothing and lose.


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Layla

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12-08-2012

Good thing armour stacking is effective against BC stac -- oh wait, no it isn't.
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2870009


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FaR2LaTe

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12-08-2012

This is what I've been trying to tell everyone. Delete the game. Problem solved. its only gonna get worse so hold on to your balls.


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Tìffany

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12-08-2012

Jayce stacking 2 cleavers = AP Nidalee spears damage on his E+Q combo.
Something's wrong here.


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The SHP

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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by Felaedor View Post
This is what happens when you introduce a 2nd %pen item for one damage type and don't do the same for the other, especially when only 1 person needs to pick it up to give the debuff to everyone on the team.

And no. DFG doesn't even count. Don't even think about it.

You don't need another for mages. MR is still more difficult to rack up than armor.


A last whisper, BC, brutalizer combo is an ~85-90% damage amp against targets with 120-250 armor (less against targets with less than 120 armor)


A sorc boot, haunting guise/liandry's, abyssal, void staff build is ~90% damage amp on any target between 90 and 150 MR (it penetrates all MR below 95 or so, in which case the damage amp is equal to the target's pre-reduction MR), and drops down to 85% against a 200 MR and 80% against 300 MR (both of which are pretty big stretches)



Stacking the flat armor pen from BC can be problematic. But once that can't stack (presumably next patch), they'll be fine. Right in line with AP casters


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Boo

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12-08-2012

good. ap casters have been op for a while now, their itemization is just toooooooooooo good for next to no trade offs


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Dl2agon

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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by Fashbinder View Post
Counterplay and build 1 chain vest for every 3 cleavers they have.

OR

Do nothing and lose.
1 chain vest does nothing when they have 70%+ armor pen. Armor doesn't matter against them its basically become see who can burst harder to win. and since they basically do true damage they win.

basically the way you counter that is health stacking.if they are reducing your armor to nothing then dont buy armor buy health and watch the burst stop. But you gotta aim for around 5k health e-e


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