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Syevmar

Junior Member

12-06-2012

Let me preface this with - I am not a nice person, never have and never will claim to be an outstanding pinnacle of moral behavior. I have been banned from various games for various reason. As of yet League is the most iron fisted and hard dicked punisher of any game I have ever played short of Club Penguin. The game is rated T, the online is unrated (generally means vulgarity) there are ignore and vulgarity filters in the game, the heavy handed punishment of anyone critical of anyone else is rediculous.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribun.../6014066/#nogo

The only thing even maybe close to reportable is my 'koreans' comment, though i have a legitimate concern of 3/5s of my team having 300-600 ping, while they have a working server where distance wouldnt inhibit their play, i wasn't even racist about it.

The first game is absolutely a disgusting breach of power, as vayne so politely put it "cocky people get banned", since when is being cocky after 3v1ing the opposing team and bannable offense?
My issue isn't with being banned, it's the mode of it. In my 2 bans (never got the 1 day ban, only warning over a year old ----- thought the decay was 6 months?) I haven't been even reported for my flagrantly toxic games, games I go into in a sour mood and proceed to make myself feel better. I get reported for thrashing the other team, or joking around with someone early game and playing it serious once the minions arrive. I get banned for missing a sona ult at 52 minutes and losing the game, or getting dived by a diana.

The infuriating part of it all is seeing a 1 week ban (which riot generally dont touch) being dished out by the community because I got reported twice, in two separate games, by a single person per game, in over 20 played in the stretch of time those come from.
My previous 3 day was 4 reports in 4 games over 100 games played, so on average less that 1% of people I play with genuinely dislike it enough to report, and of those, half of the reports are for being 'cocky' when i'm legendary and racking up multikills. If you feel the need to ban me, ban me for my horrible person games where i walk away feeling bad at the abuse i put out.

TL;DR BAN ME FOR A ****ING REASON, NOT BECAUSE I HAVE A POTTY MOUTH, I'M VOCAL, AND SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE ME KILLING THEM.

P.S. i have only gotten warnings/suspensions during periods where i have not been buying RP. During my worst month of abuse, while i was slightly depressed an lashing out at anyone and anything that irritated me i didn't get a warning, while a 1 week ban is handed out over being 'cocky' the obvious profiteering of pay or be banned is disgusting.
the only difference in my play between now and then, Now: i'm nicer(ish) and i don't buy RP.


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LiteSprite

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Senior Member

12-06-2012

Sweetheart, let me break this down for you so that you might come to an understanding...

It really doesn't matter wether or not you have a "Potty Mouth" and that really isn't the reason you got banned.

IT'S YOUR ATTITUDE. By what you posted and what your chat logs said i can already tell I would HATE playing with you.

You bossy, arrogant, obtuse, ignorant, and a pedant. You rage at the slightest of errors made by your team, and you trash talk you enemies making yourself look like an arrogant *****.

If i had the displeasure of playing with you i would report you too.

And don't use the ignore/language filter as an excuse to Flame and spew profanity like a sewer pipe. Yes it's there so that people like me can block people like you but that DOES NOT give you the privlege to do so!

So do I feel sorry for you? NO! Because you have diarrhea of the mouth and no common sense to keep it closed.

You want to be a "nicer(ish)" person? Then quit digging a ditch with your mouth and keep it shut, quit raging at people, and clean up your act, or Get the heck out of the LoL community.


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Myrm

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Junior Member

12-06-2012

I support the tribunal's decision. You are being time banned because of your inability to not harass players in game. It is largely irrelevant if you're a nice person or not, it comes down to restraint. If you feel you are so self important that you have to berate and harass other players, you don't have a place in this community.

The Tribunal also records said reported games, but doesn't always display them to people voting on them. I have no doubt based on the chat logs in your two games you're an exceptionally toxic player, and a one week time ban is the 4th step if I remember right.


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LiteSprite

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12-06-2012

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Originally Posted by Myrmstyle View Post
I support the tribunal's decision. You are being time banned because of your inability to not harass players in game. It is largely irrelevant if you're a nice person or not, it comes down to restraint. If you feel you are so self important that you have to berate and harass other players, you don't have a place in this community.

The Tribunal also records said reported games, but doesn't always display them to people voting on them. I have no doubt based on the chat logs in your two games you're an exceptionally toxic player, and a one week time ban is the 4th step if I remember right.
Yeah 4th step. Next is a permaban.


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Socialist Ryan

Senior Member

12-06-2012

you went 7/0 on shaco and got punished for it. zzzz

look until all of the trolls/greifers and afkers are banned leave language alone.


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Qichin

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12-06-2012

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Originally Posted by Socialist Ryan View Post
you went 7/0 on shaco and got punished for it. zzzz

look until all of the trolls/greifers and afkers are banned leave language alone.
Because KDA is a good way of telling if someone is a good person. Also, why go step by step in punishing bad behaviour, instead of punishing it all at once? That's like saying "Well, abusive language is ok now, but if, one day, we finally get rid of all the feeders, then you must watch out!"


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Jrud

Member

12-06-2012

Two things:

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tribunal Guidelines
4. Punish bad behavior, Not poor playing

Being bad at the game isn't a punishable offense. You should be looking at more than the score or item build to determine a verdict. A player purchasing flagrantly bad items is another thing entirely. Use your judgment to discern between bad players and trolling.
This rule from The Tribunal Guidelines basically means that if you're good at playing, but a raging troll you need to be punished. If you are a nice person, but don't know what to buy or how to play so you go 0/12/3, you are perfectly fine.

I would much rather play with a really, really horrible player than a rager.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tribunal Policy
Penalties imposed as a result of The Tribunal decisions work on a graduated system, carrying progressively harsher penalties for repeat offenders. In almost all cases, a first time offender will receive a warning, explaining that The Tribunal has determined that certain of such offender’s in-Game activity is worthy of punishment and encouraging the user to abide by the Summoner’s Code. Depending on the frequency of discipline by The Tribunal and the nature of the user’s offending actions, punishment will become progressively harsher, resulting in a ban ranging from a single day to several weeks. A member of the Riot Games support team will be assigned to audit The Tribunal system, and will be responsible for reviewing the individual cases deserving of more extreme punishment (generally, anything harsher than a single day ban). The Riot Games staff member will ultimately be responsible for manually approving the appropriate punishment, assigning a less severe level of punishment, or for pardoning the offending user, all of which the staff member shall implement in Riot Games’ sole and absolute discretion.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyOmega View Post
V. TIPS FOR JUDGING ON TRIBUNAL

1. Don't feel guilty about hitting the Punish button. The first level of punishment is a simple warning mailed from the game system. Giving a second chance is already built into the system. No need to give the violator a third, fourth, or fifth chance.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyOmega View Post
IV. NOTABLE MYTHS ABOUT TRIBUNAL

3. Tribunal can perma-ban you. - No. At most Tribunal can get you temporarily suspended. Riot staffers are assigned to handling cases that warrant perma-bans. The monetary transaction system safeguards can also put your account on hold in the case of a problem during the process of buying Riot Points.
According to The Tribunal Policy and the Judicial Handbook, the tribunal does not decide your punishment. We can't tell if this is your first or fiftieth offense when we vote, and its not our job to care. We are a group of volunteers that help riot police the game's userbase.


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Exploding Barrel

Senior Member

12-06-2012

Riot and the community simply ask that you don't be a jerk. Since you are a jerk, to paraphrase your first paragraph in the OP, maybe this isn't the right game for you.


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Kirska

Senior Member

12-06-2012

Maybe you should find a hobby that doesn't send you into a blind rage... for you own health.


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Jrud

Member

12-06-2012

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Originally Posted by Kirska View Post
Maybe you should find a hobby that doesn't send you into a blind rage... for you own health.
I like fish keeping I stare at them for at least a half an hour every day... they chill me out.


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