Black Cleaver nerf too much

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RexSaur

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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by MaddDok View Post
I have a feeling that once they nerf it will become too niche. This item is great even on some ADCs right now and honestly the item variety for ADCs is still lacking, why take out a good option? Just make the item have unique components enough so that stacking isn't as viable but buying this item alone is still a good buy.
How is BC adding variety when everyone and their mother is getting it?

Even one BC alone makes LW obsolete, which is why it is being nerfed.


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Tenshyo

Senior Member

12-08-2012

Man, and I just now think Talon is able to do things after struggling Q_Q It's been fun my friend


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Joshambo

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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by MaddDok View Post
I have a feeling that once they nerf it will become too niche. This item is great even on some ADCs right now and honestly the item variety for ADCs is still lacking, why take out a good option? Just make the item have unique components enough so that stacking isn't as viable but buying this item alone is still a good buy.
No, this item is bad on ADC because they AA. Your better off getting IE, PD and BT for more dmg output. Maybe you can get on graves or something but only as a last item. AD caster means assassin or fighters that have ad spells e.g. Rengar or Talon.


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xExcel

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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by ZephyrDrake View Post
it is a lot when you consider that people stacked it, now you won't be able to stack it AND have its stats reduced. It hurts the item way much more than simply "its 5% and 5 arpen"
...So don't stack it then?


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WellWHOOOOSThis

Senior Member

12-08-2012

If they're going to nerf it, then do it in baby steps and see what happens so that it doesn't get completely destroyed. Just start by just making is so that it doesn't stack.


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Cauldrath

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12-08-2012

Anyone saying that Black Cleaver made Last Whisper obsolete obviously didn't combine them. It's like building crit without IE.


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Dat Asian Gurl

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12-08-2012

Agreed. No need for the stat nerf on it.

Just make dat shet unique, riot. Along with Hextech Revolver/Gunblade.


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Apollinarius

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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by tenrel View Post
wow. overreacting much?

its 5% armor, and 5 armor pen.

it's nothing. you probably wont even notice it.
So why don't they nerf LW by 10 damage and 5% armor pen? We wouldn't notice that, right?

Or nerf Liandry's by 15 AP and 5 mpen?

It's because prices are based on stats. Black Cleaver still does something. It just isn't worth anywhere near 3k gold. It was barely good compared to a BT. Now it's definitely not worth it.


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tenrel

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12-08-2012

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Originally Posted by Apollinarius View Post
So why don't they nerf LW by 10 damage and 5% armor pen? We wouldn't notice that, right?

Or nerf Liandry's by 15 AP and 5 mpen?

It's because prices are based on stats. Black Cleaver still does something. It just isn't worth anywhere near 3k gold. It was barely good compared to a BT. Now it's definitely not worth it.
they don't nerf those because they don't consider them too strong....

seriously did you even think about what you just said?

"oh you think the diana nerfs aren't so bad, then why dont we just nerf talon's base damage by the same amount if they aren't so bad"

see how ridiculous that sounds?


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XSparkleFistX

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12-08-2012

.Dafuq. They made the flat armor pen Unique? lmfao


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