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~It was wrong to nerf Black Cleaver like this~

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Taikero

Senior Member

12-13-2012

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I agree with making the passive Unique.

Imagine this, a riven has 2 black cleavers and a last whisper.

Moves that do physical damage apply BC stacks.

Q>Basic>Q>Basic>Q and you have 5 BC stacks x2 because you have 2 items.

Thats 10 BC stacks. 10x7.5% = 75% armor reduction

Basic attacks also ignore 40% of armor from the Last Whisper.

Voila, any tank you fight is now as squishy as a caster minion.


The effect can only apply to a target as a single effect. It doesn't stack like you think it does. Stop talking as if you've even used the item, because you clearly and unequivocally haven't.

Also, the flat armor penetration should not have been nerfed in any way, shape, or form.


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Dayne McNasty

Member

12-13-2012

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Taikero:
The effect can only apply to a target as a single effect. It doesn't stack like you think it does. Stop talking as if you've even used the item, because you clearly and unequivocally haven't.

Also, the flat armor penetration should not have been nerfed in any way, shape, or form.


You're damn right I haven't used it, I see every Tom Dick and Riven build it now like it's the fabled item of items in the game.


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Thane Soren

Recruiter

12-14-2012

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H0p0nP0p

Senior Member

12-14-2012

Totally true. I think riot does want players to stack it then!

But still withthe nerf, bc plus lw is still strong combo atm. I fear another nerf coming soon again to them =S


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Thane Soren

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12-14-2012

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VoiceofTreason

Senior Member

12-14-2012

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Xavíer:
You're damn right I haven't used it, I see every Tom Dick and Riven build it now like it's the fabled item of items in the game.


This is such a moronic reply to a big problem that was found in your logic...


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Thane Soren

Recruiter

12-14-2012

unnecessary nerfs


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Shimrra3

Senior Member

12-15-2012

BC should have been left as it was except the CDR and flat ArPen should have been made unique. The current nerf to it seems like a 50/50 split between good and bad. Having the ArPen be unique but the CDR not... doesn't make a lot of sense to me, its like we're being dared to stack them for the CDR even though we won't get the flat ArPen. I also don't see why the item turns Brutalizer's 25 damage into 50.

I say restore its ArPen (flat and the debuff) to what they were before the nerf, but leave the flat ArPen as unique, and make the CRD unique. Possibly throw some small item into its components - like another Longsword - so its recipe can cost less than 1000g, although that last part is just personal preference.


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Thane Soren

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12-15-2012

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Thane Soren

Recruiter

12-15-2012

revert the nerfs