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~It was wrong to nerf Black Cleaver like this~

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Thane Soren

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12-10-2012

Please stop the nerfs


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Tadiken

Senior Member

12-10-2012

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Gadalar:
i'd understand the nerf to black cleaver but brutalizer? Really? Wtf gives.

Brutalizers role was to outclass b.f. sword in price/efficiency. Now with b.f. sword costing 100 less gold, and brut having less stats, b.f. sword is now better.


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Tadiken

Senior Member

12-10-2012

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Stark Midnight:
Wrong on so many levels. People do not stack black cleavers because of the passive. The passive will always max out on 4. Theres no point in stacking it for the passive. Riot knows this. The reason people stack it because it has too many good stats. Theres absolutely no reason not to get it when it has damage, health, flat penetration, and cooldown reduction.

Also take into account that it builds out of the best early game item in the entire game and you essentially just created an OP item.

B.F. Sword is now statistically better because of the brut nerf and s3 repricing. D:


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Thane Soren

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12-10-2012

Stop the nerfs


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Thane Soren

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12-11-2012

stop the nerfs


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Thane Soren

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12-11-2012

stop


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SuicideSilences

Senior Member

12-11-2012

This nerf is much needed, The armor from my point of view is to give players an option for an all in one, not to abuse the items. There's very few items that have armor pen black cleaver became a essential and really good though i do agree on the unique passive, it's a tough shoot in the dark


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Lukiner

Senior Member

12-11-2012

imho BC nerf should look like this:

Black Cleaver

  • Armor Penetration changed to Unique (Unique Passive: Deadlines)
  • Passive shred effect now reduces armor by 6.25% per stack down from 7.5%
  • Passive shred effect changed to unique (Unique Passive: Armor Crush)
  • Bonus health changed to unique (Unique Passive: Vitality)

Brutilizer
  • Armor Penetration changed to Unique (Unique Passive: Deadlines)

Youmuu's Ghost Blade
  • Armor Penetration changed to Unique (Unique Passive: Fatality)


1) no number changes for flat armor pene
2) shred reduction lowered so it would be 25% instead 30% on 4 stacks or just ignore the shred nerf and leave it as it is now
3) making bonus health and armor penetration+shred unique will stop BRUISERS and AD CASTER/ASSASSINS from stacking black cleavers (you won't become more bulky and also have more armor pene with multiple BCs)
4) making different unique passive for Youmuu's will allow to get armor penetration from both BC/Brut and Youmuu's if someone like to have both items


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Thane Soren

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12-11-2012

.,,..


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Thane Soren

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12-11-2012

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