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The math on Cleavers and Armor

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urmamasllama

Senior Member

12-05-2012

i knew it would be stronk but jesus how did the ynot realize that allowing it to stack would be beyond op?


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Fabs457

Senior Member

12-05-2012

I sort of figured after 2 BCS + LW it was kind of not worth buying more of them but that is really mind boggling


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MyDeadGrandma

Senior Member

12-05-2012

So glad this is getting disabled. Not because it was OP, but because it was the biggest noobtrap in the world.

If the enemy is stacking black cleavers and not armor, there is zero point building armor pen beyond 1 BC for your team. You may as well go full crit because hey, bugger all is getting mitigated to begin with!


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MMKH

Senior Member

12-05-2012

I miss the days when the word "Cleaver" referred to Mundo's bread and butter.


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Cauldrath

Senior Member

12-05-2012

Well, Ghostblade gives 20 pen and isn't listed as unique. Why not 1 Cleaver and 3 Ghostblades or 3 Cleavers and 1 Ghostblade? The 20 AD lost on each?

3 Ghostblades and 1 Cleaver gives you 15 more pen, so 300 armor would drop to 12.


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FDru

Senior Member

12-05-2012

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MyDeadGrandma:
So glad this is getting disabled. Not because it was OP, but because it was the biggest noobtrap in the world.

If the enemy is stacking black cleavers and not armor, there is zero point building armor pen beyond 1 BC for your team. You may as well go full crit because hey, bugger all is getting mitigated to begin with!


I think the idea is that it gives HP, CDR and AD which are all universally useful stats. The armor pen may be "wasted" if the enemy decides not to build armor, but you're still doing lots of damage and you get 1000 hp for your trouble.


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DiscworldDeath

Senior Member

12-05-2012

1. Don't forget, BCs aren't free I know it's an amazing concept, but the best build in the universe is 13,595 before boots.
2. Thanks for the numbers Sauron.
3. Malah, it doesn't seem there's any hot-fix coming, and that this will happen on 1.73 patch, whenever it occurs, unless there's a global hotfix to all game modes. That's what the red posts said to me.
4. Where was this when I played against a team where everyone had 250-350 armour (two people had Randuin's, FH, Thornmail completed...).
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More seriously, I am having too much fun playing Irelia with Zephyr, I need to find a game where I build 2-3 BCs, just to feel what it's like, just once.


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konfetarius

Senior Member

12-05-2012

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More seriously, I am having too much fun playing Irelia with Zephyr, I need to find a game where I build 2-3 BCs, just to feel what it's like, just once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwe7AwfnR9o


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DiscworldDeath

Senior Member

12-05-2012

I was expecting a one ring temptation video


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smXho

Senior Member

12-06-2012

sometimes i am glad i havent reach the black cleaver everywhere elo yet

But these thing spread downwards, just like BFT Teemo

So going on the Coop for money until 1.73 train soon