This "new" Dota interface

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Appull

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12-05-2012

TO ANY RIOT EMPLOYEES
please pass this up as high as possible and all LoL fans who agree please pass this around.

League of Legends is the most played game in the world. That is truly an achievement and I'm very happy to know I'm part of that statistic. But why is it the most played game? It's a MOBA game, and there are other MOBA games, why aren't they? Why was it League? And that's a much simpler answer than it seems.

League of Legends is a much simpler and user friendly games. The large pictures, the bright colors, the ease of understanding. It draws in new players and becomes addicting to the ones who have played forever. I defend LoL constantly and have always had plenty to back up what I was saying when telling new people about it or fighting off "haters". But with this new update I have really lost most of my defenses.

I agree whole heartedly, I love the jungle changes, new items were heavily needed for the game. But changing the HUD(not sure if that is right), changing the camera angle, adding more active items and effects that heavily change the outcome of the game are taking it several steps to far.

To begin with the new HUD my health and mana and skills now take up to much of my screen, I'd much rather not see them than have them that huge. I'm a big mid player and now staring at the map is the only way to see an approach from the south side of the river, especially if you are purple or pushed up blue. But really I think that is a mix of the HUD AND the camera angle. I just played a game with anivia, and most my skill ranges go off the screen now if I am aiming below me. And anivia does not exactly have the longest range in the game, players who play Gragas and Lux must almost never be able to see their characters. And before anyone says it let me stop you now, I DO NOT PLAY WITH MY SCREEN LOCKED. I do however like to have my champion at least on my screen so I can watch all sides of me ESPECIALLY when I am being offensive. I was playing against an Oriana and was purple and could not harass because of the camera making it to dangerous.

One of the biggest things I always hear "LoL is just Dota" and I have always defended and explained the differences but making the item system, the health, the skills, etc. All look exactly like Dota killed any chance I will ever have of defending that. I was excited when I heard search bar, when I logged in and saw Dota I was very angry. My chat from that game, was certainly less than honorable. And I don't dislike it just because it is Dota, I dislike that system in general, I really do not like Dota, same as many many other league players, and the item system is a big reason. It LOOKS like it is easier to navigate but it really isn't unless you actually know what you are looking for. I loved the old navigation so much. Just a few clear bars and the section i wanted was few clicks away with a very very space eficent look. The item list did not clutter and the item was broken down in a helpful and non wasteful way with my recommends above. While I was learning the recomendeds above were very helpful as when I wanted to implement different items I could compare to reccomended items since they showed me kind of what this character needs and it made it easy to understand. having them as they are now separate and boxed and prices, it looks like clutter and doesn't exactly give the chance while in a game to read them and compare. Again yes I know it is possible to read items out of game and look up builds on mobafire. But most people (especially new people) are going to work with what is available in game, and will want to adapt a build of their own to their own play style.

The active items I do like having these options but I don't want them to ever get very powered or having big effects because LoL should not turn into a button spam game every team fight. So I'm not complaining on what is out right now really, it's more of please don't get carried away with this.

Now there are plenty of things I would like to praise about some of the new items and changes but you are going to get plenty of that from everyone else. I just wanted to make a constructed and thought out complaint/think about that could be heard and understood better than "This sucks" or "I hate the way this looks"

I love LoL I have been a die hard fan since I found it (around same time Ahri came out) and I don't want it to stop being LoL. I just really want Morello and all the other designers and developers to think about this. LoL made it for a reason, please keep that reason alive and well to keep people here and new people coming.

~Appull


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Sir Thronk

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12-05-2012

I agree with some extent, the new HUD is very clunky and boxy and ugly, and while I myself haven't played Dota, I've heard from two or three friends the new shop looks very similar to the Dota shop.

I liked the old shop better.


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Gorgonoth

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12-05-2012

The shop is exactly Dota 2. I really agree with this and we need to up vote it. One of the things that was great with League was how it was unique compared to Dota and slowly these updates have been making it more and more like Dota.


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Reverentforce

Junior Member

12-06-2012

i just hate the hud plain and simple. will vote this up though hopefully they pay attention to what the players want and not how much they can look like the other games like them. i mean overall seriusly the hud is an eyesore i want the old one back it was easier on the eyes and overall worked much better.


you should change the name of this topic to " where o where is our little league of legends gone." becuase at this rate it wont be league very longer. riot it just saddens me yall would copy a crappy game like dota2's shop only diehards of dota like dota or thier shop and even then most of them dont.


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Leoniks

Senior Member

12-06-2012

Riots Change it back, I am hardly read the chat, and make me very angry simply to communicate with teammate and focus on the chat more than on the game , spending time reading small words.


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Kaell123

Junior Member

12-06-2012

Just to add. im not sure why but this new Hud is straining on the eyes


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XInMyPantsX

Junior Member

12-07-2012

They literally turned it into dota2..Iv been playing LoL since season one and spent my hard earned money on this game and loved every min of it. this new patch has changed league for the worse imo. If this is the direction league is taking we can part ways. because this is ridiculous. the new shop is way to time consuming the small font. Riot please fix this mistake or risk losing a large amount of players.


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Thanatosdb87

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12-08-2012

I agree with all that was mentioned above the hud and store is just awful. I almost uninstalled the second i saw it but better judgement ruled out and i told my self i would get used to it.................... well its still awful but because i KNOW you care about your players riot you will do your best to resolve this, i hope. Please I left Dota cuz it was **** please dont turn this wonderful game into a carbon copy of Dota there is so much i love about this game and u are slowly stripping it away every patch. Good job on the new items and the idea just poor execution on the store and the hud. The store is just way to time consuming it takes twice as long to search for anything it didnt get streame lined it got complicated. The store is so un-userfriendly i like the team stats and the health bar but everything else gets in the way.


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Vrouge

Senior Member

12-08-2012

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I hate Dota 2 bcoz I can't play it WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA therefore it's bad WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...

Seriously just shut the hell up you pathetic LoL purists.


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LadyFiara

Member

12-08-2012

I agree with everything said above aside from Vrouge the troll.

The new shop is terrible in itself and the items are ridiculous to try and find. The HUD is ok (imo) and you can scale it so it's not quite as freakin' huge as it is. (HUD scaling in game options)

Riot, please take something away from this:
Do you remember when Blizzard had 12million people playing WoW? It was because the 2nd expansion was sooooooooooooo close to vanilla (as far as game mechanics being changed). Once the 3rd expansion came out, their numbers peaked in the middle of it, and started dropping towards the end because they started drastically changing the things that appealed to the player base in the first place. Numbers continue/continued to fall because they are still changing things so much.

What can we learn from this experience? If it's not broke, don't fix it.

Yes, this is a free game...(some may say we don't pay for the game so what does your opinion matter to riot) but I know I've spent over 300$ on it in the last 3 months buying skins/champs for Halloween and taking advantage of the sales each week. I'm sure I'm not the only one. The player base that you're disappointing right now, is the one who's making you more bank than Blizzard. The players and the fans who loved this game the way that it was.
Please take all of this into consideration. Thank you.


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