Morgana's ultimate doesn't stun

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chphilli

Junior Member

12-13-2012

Just want to report the same thing, plus a possibly related addition:

- Chasing Volibear with Morgana ult on, time expires but no stun. It's *possible* he got out of range, but it didn't seem like that to me or another player on my team. (We actually both commented on it at the same time.)

- Using the ult to detect a stealthed twitch: the leash just points to where he was when the ult started -- when his stealth ended, he was quite far away from that point. Interestingly enough, he was still stunned despite the broken tether location.


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Lady Septimus

Member

12-14-2012

I think part of the problem is that it may look like the person is still on the chain, even though they aren't and then to make matters even more confusing her ulti still plays the stun soundfile even when the person isn't on the chain. That confuses me so much, I think the person is still on my chain and I think they are stunned but they aren't. I don't know if this is an issue with the classic skin, nowadays I only play with the BlackThorn skin.


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chphilli

Junior Member

12-30-2012

Just had this happen again: Jax jumps in to kill my Ashe, during which I bind and pool under him. I put black shield on myself and walk up and ult. When he ends stun, he starts walking back to tower, but I just walk with him, nearly in autoattack range the whole time. He had basically no health left, but when the ult ends, he just keeps walking away past the tower.

Almost everyone in the game (including Jax) comments that the ult didn't go off and that Jax should have been dead, before I have a chance to say anything.


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shindaiwa21

Member

01-02-2013

I think I have an explanation for this issue. A while back there was a subtle change in patch notes for morgana, saying that the leash range recalculation went from .5 to .25 seconds, meaning the game checks to see if the person/people your shackling are in range ever .25 seconds down from .5, and if the answer is no, it pops the tether.

If you look at the actual leash range on morgana, it's quite short. Coming back to playing morg, I noticed that I key off the audio aspect of the ult, so i chase and that sound sort of builds up, whuuUUUUUUUU-PAAAOW, and I know that I can pull back right at the very very end of that whuuuUUUU type buildup. I hear the popping PAAAOW at the end that signifies stun + second damage tick, like the sound has already been triggered to play, but the actual tether was broken instants before the the 2nd tick of soul shackles, after the 2nd tick's sound effect has already started playing.

I suppose the leash time recalculation change on her ult was done in an effort to make it more consistent, cause I assume the tether could break the exact same way as it does now before the change, but it was just less likely to happen unless you broke range right when the leash range was being calculated. The actual result, I think of this change was effectively lessening the range to the actual range and making the tether easier to break. I noticed everyone was escaping morg ult in pro games after they made this change.

Technically the morg ult ends on a .5 second interval, so I guess the change should matter but maybe it somehow still does. Before it always felt like you could get away with turning away right before the ult ended and still getting the pop, prolly when the enemy was technically out of range.

That's my theory, just a guess.


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NewbV3

Junior Member

01-02-2013

So, after my latest game with Morgana, I've noticed that eve's w might completely cancel my ult.

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/2660339/

At around 11:15, I ult eve and mf, eve runs TOWARDS me, not away, using her w. and my ult doesn't finish on her. Also happens again at 18:05, except that time she was running from me, so it's questionable about the range but you can still see the tether.

New replay

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/2660890/

At around 21:20, I ult Sona and Malzahar, Malz casts malefic visions and ignite on me while Sona attempts to ult me and Kassadin, but misses. Neither of them came close to breaking the tether, and neither were stunned or received damage.


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Ballzybuzz

Senior Member

01-02-2013

It happened to me too, twice in fact, i was fighting katarina mid i gotten her binded then used my ult, she did too, i was getting very low and as the stun was to take effect it didn't and died twice cuz of that. I taugth she was just lucky but now that i see this tread, it make senses.


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NewbV3

Junior Member

01-03-2013

And here's a new one.

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/2666097/

At around 12:35, I ult Lee sin as he's chasing me, he's in close range when I cast the ult, and continues chasing me the entire duration. He was within half my ult's maximum range the entire time, so it's definitely not an issue of being too far away. My ult finishes, he is not stunned or damaged, so he's able to continue attacking and using skills when it ends. I was not affected by any cc either this time.

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/2666267/

At around 9:35, Volibear charges at me. I ult him, he throws me over his head and keeps attacking me. My ult finishes, and he is not stunned nor does he receive the ult damage at the end. He also never came anywhere close of leaving my ult range.


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Riot Morgageddon

Player Support Tech Specialist

01-04-2013

I've been trying to reliable reproduce this for a while. Would anyone want to spend a half hour on Summoner's Rift in a 1v1 just trying to find an overall reason why it doesn't work?

Else, I shall use an alt account and Morgana free week to my advantage.


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Anachronity

Senior Member

01-04-2013

I was a high level Morgana and building spell vamp. The bug occured in the middle lane, but neither of us were in a bush. I had Sorcerer's Shoes, a Will of the Ancients, a Hextech Revolver, and 3 doran's rings.

We were both moving a lot when it happened, it could have something to do with that. Maybe the stun tether doesn't move when Morgana does?

Edit: again, I have a replay of it, but it seems to be broken. Could a LoL recorder match that doesn't work be fixed somehow?


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Riot Morgageddon

Player Support Tech Specialist

01-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Anachronity View Post
I was a high level Morgana and building spell vamp. The bug occured in the middle lane, but neither of us were in a bush. I had Sorcerer's Shoes, a Will of the Ancients, a Hextech Revolver, and 3 doran's rings.

We were both moving a lot when it happened, it could have something to do with that. Maybe the stun tether doesn't move when Morgana does?

Edit: again, I have a replay of it, but it seems to be broken. Could a LoL recorder match that doesn't work be fixed somehow?
I do wonder if it has to do with range in regards to when it was FIRST activated. I shall try that out tonight with a level 1 freebie on my laptop and my 30 on my desktop. I'll run them across mid, hopefully more than 1000 units away and see if that causes it to fail.


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