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Noxian Guilotine 100 cd lvl1, Demacian Justice 140 cd lvl1.

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Evandir

Senior Member

11-27-2012

It's ok because Darius has huge mana prob... oh wait.


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MysteltainSensei

Senior Member

11-27-2012

Quote:
Tybaulticus:
Garen at level 6 has: An execute, a silence that applies on-hits, a bonus to armor and MR, and one of the highest early damage skills.


Darius has: An execute, 5% armor pen, a slow, a DoT, and a pull.


Garen's damage is easily mitigated by armor. Darius isnt.


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Cyanide Velocity

Senior Member

11-27-2012

Garen's Ult is soooo outdated and honestly needs to be reworked entirely and replaced with something that actually fits his kit.


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Tybault Windsor

Senior Member

11-27-2012

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XenDryks:
Are you seriously arguing Darius is not better than Garen? LOL



Darius outputs more damage on skills alone.


Garen outputs more damage with items, and has much more utility with his skills.


It honestly comes down to how important getting kills is to you.


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Auryiel

Member

11-27-2012

Quote:
redwolf343:
It's ok because Darius has huge mana prob... oh wait.


Darius has mana problems when he ults five people!

*Builds Frozen Heart*

Hum... Well...

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Tybaulticus:
Darius outputs more damage on skills alone.


Garen outputs more damage with items, and has much more utility with his skills.


It honestly comes down to how important getting kills is to you.


By utility, I hope you mean self-utility like his damage mitigation and his speed boost, because his only utility is a silence. Darius has his pull and his AS/MS slow.


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Yinne

Senior Member

11-27-2012

Quote:
XenDryks:
Are you seriously arguing Darius is not better than Garen? LOL


Except Garen destroys Darius in lane.

Pull in? Yeah ok SPIN@WIN + SILENCE.


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Jamaree

Senior Member

11-27-2012

Hard CC that creates terrain > single target burst skill. So yes, balanced.


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Desmond Law

Senior Member

11-27-2012

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mambawarrior0:
Noxian guillotine: 160-320 damage, depending on stacks
Demacian justice: 165+29% of the target's missing health.
Edit: Not saying either is better, saying apples to oranges. I'll never understand why people always compare the two.


one is an orange, the other is a GMO orange.


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IS1a420802574b139f7409f

Senior Member

11-27-2012

Quote:
XenDryks:
Are you seriously arguing Darius is not better than Garen? LOL


You know what makes this so funny? Garen absolutely destroys Darius in lane 1v1.

Like... try it. Garen is a pretty hard counter actually.


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Maha

Senior Member

11-27-2012

Quote:
Tybaulticus:
Garen at level 6 has: An execute, a silence that applies on-hits, a bonus to armor and MR, and one of the highest early damage skills.


Darius has: An execute, 5%-25% armor pen, a slow, a DoT, and a pull.


It scales .