Mere's Totally Random and (Mostly) Useless Maths Facts!

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silentpartner

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11-21-2012

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Yes and no..
Finding factors of very large numbers is actually still a big problem, as it is exponentially bigger than timing too numbers.
They are developing Quantum Computers (a lot of work on this is being done at my uni) which will be able to divide big numbers.
When are you required to divide big numbers in lets say a real life business situation?

Or do these computers do much more stuff too?


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Mere Intricacy

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Firstly, research isn't done and things aren't discovered for the purpose of real world applications. Applications can be diverse and abundant, but come much later. I'm sure people saw no purpose to Volta's was putting salt water soaked paper into between different metals, and alas 200 years later think of all the uses e have for a battery.

Secondly, this does have a use, the first part was just me being annoyed at your first statement.
If you multiple 2 large prime numbers say 50 digits plus, it is a lot quicker to calculate their product, rather than the factors on a number with over 100 digits. This fact is used in cryptology. Without going into is too much, if you wish to send a message, you encode in a way such that it is a 100 - 200 digit number even if anyone gets a hold of this number (message) there is no way for them to decode to it. Only the person who know the prime factor can decipher it.

Also "these computer" would revolutionize computing. Being able to do any calculation or execute any code and speeds near the speed of light.


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c4lm

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Firstly, research isn't done and things aren't discovered for the purpose of real world applications.
I vomited.


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Mere Intricacy

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"If functional quantum computers can be built, they will be valuable in factoring large numbers, and therefore extremely useful for decoding and encoding secret information. If one were to be built today, no information on the Internet would be safe. Our current methods of encryption are simple compared to the complicated methods possible in quantum computers. Quantum computers could also be used to search large databases in a fraction of the time that it would take a conventional computer."
I found this on online if you're interested Silent.
http://ewh.ieee.org/r10/bombay/news4..._Computers.htm


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silentpartner

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ok. so i could be used to help encrypt things, that sounds alright.

Also research is mostly funded by big business, minorly funded by government, so having an idea that could affect big business (or military - like encryption) is actually a pretty big requirement in getting **** done.


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Jesus the Friend

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I vomited.
I THINK she means that a great deal of the discoveries and technologies that are currently used regularly have been stumbled upon by accident.

Penicillin for example... but yeah, I'd have to reach really far to justify her incredibly horribawful statement.


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Exoctane

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Firstly, research isn't done and things aren't discovered for the purpose of real world applications. Applications can be diverse and abundant, but come much later. I'm sure people saw no purpose to Volta's was putting salt water soaked paper into between different metals, and alas 200 years later think of all the uses e have for a battery.

Secondly, this does have a use, the first part was just me being annoyed at your first statement.
If you multiple 2 large prime numbers say 50 digits plus, it is a lot quicker to calculate their product, rather than the factors on a number with over 100 digits. This fact is used in cryptology. Without going into is too much, if you wish to send a message, you encode in a way such that it is a 100 - 200 digit number even if anyone gets a hold of this number (message) there is no way for them to decode to it. Only the person who know the prime factor can decipher it.

Also "these computer" would revolutionize computing. Being able to do any calculation or execute any code and speeds near the speed of light.
I see value in real science, but these numbers that are still linear has very little value, like trying to calculate how large the universe is or getting a general arts degree vs. accelerating particles faster than light, y'know something that actually adds real world value.


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vcadoda

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11-21-2012

By this I trust that you are a math (or physics) major?

I'm an engineer, were lazy and let the computers do things for us.
Not to mention that things in real life are almost never perfect (no whole numbers nor perfect shapes).


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Mere Intricacy

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Double major.


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Mere Intricacy

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FACT #3:
Inequalities don't exist for complex numbers.