@Riot: When are you Giving Elementz his $20 ?

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Kryptix

Senior Member

10-07-2010

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Originally Posted by Gibbilo View Post
As much as I LOVE the idea of Swain and his skills, I say its safe to say he's not really delivering at this point.
He is for me. Stop complaining and get better.




Trolling aside, he does need a slight buff to his ratios.


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PrimalHatred

Senior Member

10-07-2010

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Arcane Tomb
Huh? Is that Will of the Ancients?


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Devil May LOL

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10-07-2010

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Originally Posted by pseudoskill View Post
had a swain a few games ago go 32/1/4

i don't think he's UP or like Urgot, people need to figure him out
because he's new and not many people are comfortable with him yet.

Last game I solo'ed mid corki against swain and I ended up dying 3 times during the laning phase just because I couldn't estimate his damage.

However when teamfight starts we rape him so hard that it wasn't even funny.


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TheChiatroll

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10-07-2010

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Originally Posted by K D Bonez View Post
I just went 15/0/14 as Swain. End of thread.
obviously anecdotal evidence of a champions useless is unarguable proof.


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Uccisore

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10-07-2010

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Originally Posted by Postal Twinkie View Post
Swain is irrelevant when you use a build that doesn't work, just like any other champion. Try this on Swain, and tell me he is a joke after.

Rush Rod of Ages
Ok...now it's 27 minutes into the game and my team is already clicking to surrender because it's been an effective 4v5 this whole time.

Swain doesn't rush anything.


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TheChiatroll

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10-07-2010

Did riot accept the bet though?


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turntekGodhead

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10-07-2010

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I don't last hit very well on Swain
Hmmm, that's a problem with the character.


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PrimalHatred

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10-07-2010

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Ok...now it's 27 minutes into the game and my team is already clicking to surrender because it's been an effective 4v5 this whole time.

Swain doesn't rush anything.
Yeah, this is pretty much how I feel. If he can get his manapool up pretty high, he's decently effective, but that's something like Tear + Rod and hope that your team isn't losing too horribly in the meantime. Even then he just becomes decent, it's sort of like being a caster Nasus that's more vulnerable to burst, has a worse slow, and isn't significantly better at pounding a single target.


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apapersack

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10-07-2010

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Ok...now it's 27 minutes into the game and my team is already clicking to surrender because it's been an effective 4v5 this whole time.

Swain doesn't rush anything.
Ummm....swain is actually decent in the early levels. Learn to last hit and you can have a RoA @ 20 mins at the latest.


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Pwnage Engage

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10-07-2010

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Originally Posted by Postal Twinkie View Post
Swain is irrelevant when you use a build that doesn't work, just like any other champion. Try this on Swain, and tell me he is a joke after.

Rush Rod of Ages
Sorc/Merc boots, depending on team.
Ryla
Spirit Visage
Arcane Tomb

You can also insert Chalice if you feel the need, although with mana per 5 runes and the right Masteries it isn't required.

You should sit a little over 3,000 HP, and have insane amounts of self heal from spell vamp on tomb and Spirit Visage.
TBH, swain isn't bad. he's not great, but he aint bad.

BUT HE SURE AS HELL ISNT WORTH THE 6300 IP!