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Alright, let's have a little maths session. Let's take a champion who is known for their burst - Annie.

Now little Annie here has three major nuking abilities her Q, W, R. Let's assume that the champions are lvl 18 with 600 AP.

Annie's Q deals 245 base damage, while damage from the 70% ratio will be 420. That equals 665.

Annie's W deals 280 base damage, while damage from the 75% ratio will be 450. This equals 730.

Annie's R deals 450 base damage, while damage from the 70% ratio will be 420. This equals 870.

Minus the 20% AP per second from tibbers, Annie's burst comes to a total of 2265 damage.

Now let's get onto the case of Syndra, who's Q, W, E and R are all use abilities that deal damage. Again, we assume Syndra is lvl 18, with 600 AP.

Syndra's Q deals 264.5 base damage, while damage from the 69% ratio will be 414. That equals 678.(We'll round down the decimal)

Syndra's W deals 240 base damage, while damage from the 70% ratio will be 420. This equals 660.

Syndra's E deals 250 base damage, while the damage from the 40% ratio will be 240. This equals 490.

Syndra's R (With 1 additional orb) deals 720 base damage, while the damage from the 80% ratio will be 480. This equals 1200 damage.

This is a total of 3028 damage. This is ~750 more burst than Annie.

Please note this is only taking in consideration that you're attacking single target, and yes Annie CAN do more AoE burst than Syndra, but Syndra can much more easily insta-gib a squishy target on their team, while also dealing more AoE sustained damage.

Syndra isn't bad, she's just hard to play to her full extent.

Here is your problem Annie has 3 damaging skills and Syndra has 4.

Lets compare her to an ap mid with 4 damaging abilities.

Brand

Sear- 240+(.65 of 600) =630

Pillar of Flame- 319+(.75 of 600)=769

Conflagration- 210+(.55 of 600)=540

Pyroclasm-assuming two bounces 750+(1 of 600)=1350

Total of 3289 damage

If he had bounced it five times

It would have been 5189 damage

If Syndra had pulled off her mystical 7 sphere attack her total damage would have been 3929 damage.

Now if we look at the fact that brand just has to fire his fireball of death and leave while Syndra is stuck trying to play orb shuffle to get 7 orbs out and ult we see who the better mage is.

Syndra is definently hard to play to her full potential I am not saying she isn't all I am saying is there isn't enough there when you look at her full potential vs how hard she is to use.