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The New Blackfire Torch Passive Explained

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VoidInsanity

Senior Member

11-12-2012

The Basics

  • 5% of max hp over 3 seconds
  • 1.67% max hp damage per second
  • Refreshes to 3 seconds for each spelldamage
  • Holds 25 charges, takes 25 seconds to recharge
  • Spells that do not proc spellvamp still trigger this item (Example - Teemo's Toxic Shot)
  • Aoe spells spread charges evenly - If you hit 5 people with an aoe spell then you use up 15 charges instantly
  • Does not trigger on creeps
  • Since DoT's take 1 charge per second and you gain 1 charge per second, A single DoT should always proc blackfire fully provided you don't fight anyone else.

The Numbers
  • Deals 16.7 damage per second per 1000 hp
  • 3 ticks deal 50 damage per 1000 hp.
  • The number of ticks from Dot is equal to the duration of the dot + 2
  • Its AP Value is equal to the total damage you'd get from the Dot divided by the AP ratio of the skill used to trigger it for linear scaling skills.

Because of the above - The passive is strongest when used with DoT skills, on casters with low AP ratios, or both.

Examples

Quote:
Malefic Visions / Noxious Trap (Shrooms) - Ap Ratio 0.8
Lasts 4 seconds, will refresh passive 3 times for a total of 6 ticks, 10% of targets max hp.
Equal to 125 ap per 1000 hp


Quote:
Blaze (Brands Passive) - 2% max hp per second over 4 seconds (8% total)
Will refresh 3 times, 6 ticks, +10% max hp over 6 seconds.
A single Brand spell now can do up to 18% max hp in additional magic damage


Quote:
Children of the Grave - 4% Max HP per 100 ap
Will Refresh 10 times, for a total of 13 ticks (because the dot starts 1 second after the nuke part of the skill, which also triggers the dot)
Worth over 500 ap in overall damage or around 900-1100 ap in additional damage per second


TLDR - Expect to see this rushed on everyone.


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HaIfhearted

Senior Member

11-12-2012

Example:
Brand - ends up doing around 18-19% of a targets maximum health with a single spell.
Awwww yeah!

My only fear is that it will start getting banned now : (


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Tempestphile

Senior Member

11-13-2012

Is it me, or does this patch favors yorick?


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AbsolutePK

Senior Member

11-13-2012

AP Teemo has a new best friend.

Dat poison on auto attacks.


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Demonite10

Senior Member

11-13-2012

Quote:
AbsolutePK:
AP Teemo has a new best friend.

Dat poison on auto attacks.


Time to experiment with AS/AP Twitch. Guess it would also go well on AS/AP MF too. Would Lux and Orianna proc it with their autoattacks? Does Executioner's Calling also proc it?


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wingstreet

Senior Member

11-13-2012

just another piece in the amazing champ that will be S3 vlad. getting him to late game status in mid game time and with the new items will be good!!!


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Djmacklefire

Junior Member

11-13-2012

I feel the item was personally designed for elise...


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Nyx87

Senior Member

11-13-2012

Doesn't it follow the Rylais rules of AoE and DoTs where it is less effective? I thought i read somewhere that it was going to do that.

Otherwise, **** YEAH MORDE IS BACK BABY!


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Fabs457

Senior Member

11-13-2012

love the viability it possibly gives to champs you rarely see now


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FOODFOOD

Senior Member

11-13-2012

Totally buying this on Dr. Mundo.

Also, as an aside - even though it would make no sense - Trundle's Ult.


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