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Hextech Sweeper

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Veni13

Senior Member

11-12-2012

Is Hextech Sweeter now completely redundant as an item? Blackfire Torch seems to do more and it looks like a smarter buy gold-wise.

Discuss.


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Orphane

Senior Member

11-12-2012

How is movement speed and the scouting/revealing active redundant?

Like....where are you seeing these functions on Blackfire torch?


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VoidInsanity

Senior Member

11-12-2012

The sweeper is the better of the two items because of the +10% movespeed. While the Blackfire Torch passive looks good on paper, on most casters with 0.8 ap ratios or higher, it is worth only around 40-50 ap. Good but not a replacement for deathcap and sure as hell not a replacement for the old DFG.

But on champions with **** ap ratios....Blackfire could be really interesting.


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BeefJerkyHunter

Senior Member

11-12-2012

Buy both.
You get a decent amount of health, AP and cooldown reductions.


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Rebel Dragon

Senior Member

11-12-2012

I will miss the old passive.


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Veni13

Senior Member

11-12-2012

Quote:
BeefJerkyHunter:
Buy both.
You get a decent amount of health, AP and cooldown reductions.


Though chances are you'll then have to forego Witchcap. Decisions, decisions.


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HaIfhearted

Senior Member

11-12-2012

Blackfire Torch:
70 AP, 20 Magic Pen, 15% CDR, 350ish Health, spells deal 5% of the targets max health over 3ish seconds (reduced for AoEs)

Builds out of Kages and Haunting Guise.

It's definitely a strong item.


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Ahlen

Senior Member

11-12-2012

BFT into Wooglets for me. Hextech is still super niche.


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ricedream5

Senior Member

11-12-2012

Sweeper is not niche...at all. It's a very awesome item to have for almost all AP champions. I liked the current one more though.


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Ahlen

Senior Member

11-12-2012

There are better items to build early and to fill item slots.


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