Ashe Passive Rework

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Ferretlord87

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11-11-2012

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Originally Posted by SongBirdSweet View Post
no escape
other then aa slow and wide spread of arrow slow.


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SongBirdSweet

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11-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Ferretlord87 View Post
other then aa slow and wide spread of arrow slow.
Ever seen an Ez or Corki get phage?

It's not like ashe can buy an escape


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SongBirdSweet

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11-11-2012

bump


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The Nice Boat

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11-11-2012

The thing is, Ashe is balanced as she is. Sure her passive is bad, but if it's buffed she would have to be nerfed in other areas to make up for it.


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GhostFrog314

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11-11-2012

I suspect it would be surprisingly easy to accidentally push Ashe into OP territory. Yes, Ashe has the lowest potential damage output of any AD carry and technically has no repositioning skill (I say "technically" because a 4 second cooldown aoe slow + a single target permaslow on autoattack can be pretty decent for repositioning in a lot of situations), but in exchange, she has a huge amount of utility. Permaslow autoattacks, aoe slow on a 4 second cooldown, built-in clairvoyance, and her very own teamfight initiation ult. Giving Ashe a strong damage passive could very easily make her OP.

I think an interesting alternative to Ashe's current passive might be:

Ashe gains x% crit chance for every autoattack since her last critical strike.

It would make her passive useful for something other than her first attack when getting to lane or her first attack in a teamfight. The exact percent would have to be toned down from where it is now (18% lategame would be too strong), but it certainly seems like an overall better passive for an AD carry than Ashe's current one.


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Hieronymus Bosch

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11-11-2012

I don't think her passive needs a rework honestly, maybe just a change to make it work the same way MF's passive does... for example, after not autoattacking for 5 seconds, ashe gains 50% crit chance, increasing up to 100% over 5 seconds, etc (number tweaks ofc)


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steelfirez

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11-11-2012

I believe that Ashe's designer agreed that it was too weak, and said that it is low on their list of priorities. However, if they were to remake it, it would be something like
Ashe's crit chance increases x% per second until she crits. Something like that.


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Cerulean Laser

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11-11-2012

~This is just a thought ^_^~
"Ashe the Frost Archer":

~Passive = Freljord Bowmaster: Ashe's basic attacks have a chance to briefly flash freeze a targeted enemy champion.

Q: Heat-Seeking Arrows: Ashe dashes toward targeted location firing 3 homing arrows at the nearest enemy champion.
(Toggled-Q) = Frost Shot: Ashe's basic attacks slow her targets for 2 seconds.

W: Scatter Shot: Ashe fires a total of 7 arrows in a cone in front of her that will deal physical damage and and apply the slow from Frost Shot. An enemy is able to be hit by multiple arrows but the damage is decreased for every arrow that hit to a cap.
(Toggled-W) = Artic Detonation: Ashe’s Scatter Shot deals Hoarfrost damage to slowed enemies which will decrease attack speed and deal physical damage over time(up to a cap).

E: Hawkshot is now able to reveal nearby stealted champions upon its flight path and detonation.

R: Enchanted Crystal Arrow: The Explosion of the arrow creates a Hail Storm after a delay(The delay increases the closer you are and decreases the further you are) which slows enemies that stay within its radius. If an enemy in CC'ed by an ally champion when the Hail Storm starts then the Hail Storm will deal Hoarfrost damage to them(decreasing attack speed and dealing physical damage over time up to a cap).


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Felza

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11-11-2012

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Would 305 movement speed really destroy bot lane

5/10/15% armor penetration is basically corki's passive but a little bit stronger.

She has no steroids, no escape

She needs something better than other ADCs


you want to know what else she has, other ADC doesn't? One of the BEST Initiations in game.

don't forget her 600 Attack range.

and her Free CV

She is the Utility version of an ADC


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Tenshyo

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11-11-2012

If her Q slowed for 3 seconds, her passive would be good for kiting, as her crit chance goes up eery 3 seconds.

Her mana costs compared to her scaling is completely fair. Gets 100% of her AD. Think about that for a second.


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