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Gath Immortal

Senior Member

11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post

We either made these items relevant for a specific purpose or removed them if they were too problematic to balance. Some super-niche or narrow-scope items have been remade to work on a greater variety of champions.
So I hope it's not too much to ask but could you tell us which items were removed completely from the game?


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Sardis Jett

Senior Member

11-07-2012

@Xypherous Is this going to be taking affect in Twisted Treeline as well?


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Irie Vibrator

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11-07-2012

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You realize that Talon isn't the only AD Caster right? And even if it were the case - Assassins have no right being able to murder everyone they please at a moment's notice with impunity?
This. New BC will be amazing on champs like Riven and, I'm assuming, Zed.


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Xypherous

Systems Designer

11-07-2012
27 of 29 Riot Posts

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cannot see a situation where I would buy this new item on a ranged ad carry.
Yes, this is correct. You would only buy this item on a ranged AD carry if:

1. You had one or two physical characters on your team.
2. You had a way to easily spread out physical damage to the other team.

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Would it be particularly stupid/bad to just stack LW and BC? Just because they stack multiplicatively doesn't mean they don't stack at all.
Well - I mean, you must *really* hate armor - but theoretically, with a full build of LW/BC - you could ignore something like 70% of the armor thrown your way.

At a certain point though - if you're considering both LW and BC - it might be a good call to ask *your* friendly bruiser to pick up BC and you to pick up LW and then coordinate some pain.


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Jaigar

Senior Member

11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Eyaeda View Post
Indeed. Talon shouldn't be killing tanks at all, imo. However:

What role do you have planned for Flat Ar.Pen (as opposed to %Ar.Pen, which isn't really an Assassin stat) in Season 3?

Will Flat Ar.Pen be a focus-able build path to maximize an AD Assassin's (e.g., Talon's) burst vs. squishy targets?

Will it be possible to Flat Ar.Pen a squishy target to 0 Armor during early, mid, or late game in Season 3?
From what I've been reading, thats part of the goal. The other part is to allow a better transition into late. With the change to the order its calculated in, Flat armor pen is complimented well with % armor pen making it an actual viable path.

The thing is, Talon and other AD casters need to be able to do a little bit more damage against tanks. Its a soft vs. hard counter sort of thing. AP does more burst, but they have a scaling option with rabadons, spell pen, and CDR. ADCs have armor pen and Crit while AD casters only have Armor pen and CDR, which simply does not scale as well.


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BladeSharkX

Junior Member

11-07-2012

Are you going to have madreds bloodrazors do the same for people such as pantheon or Garen


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Iorek

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11-07-2012

Would the new BC proc twice on Talon's rake? Since it does damage the way in and the way back


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GrizlakMonger

Member

11-07-2012

Do top players agree that these changes will maintain the balance of the game while adding variety? They should no better than anyone what are reasonable changes and I hope lots of input is taken from them. Working with TPA, AZF, AZB, CLG.EU, M5, etc could only bring about good things I would think.


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Zenkatsu

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11-07-2012

Is the passive a unique passive or not. Stacking two of these for faster debuff application would be pretty amazing.


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TalLavi

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11-07-2012

When will we get the next item(s) change review from you Xyph, its pretty late here, should I stay up?