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Satarrus

Senior Member

11-07-2012

On the subject of new items and armor penetration, do you intend to add armor pen boots? Boot choice has always been somewhat of a problem for AD Casters, with Ninja Tabi/Merc threads not feeling very suited to the role and Ionian boots being the only other real choice but very situational.


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Eyaeda

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11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
Flat Penetration can't counter early game armor stacking. In fact, Flat Penetration currently *loses* to early armor stacking. Chain Vest > All the Penetration you can buy ever.
Yes, sorry, I worded that very poorly: I meant to ask if Ar.Pen was being improved or promoted for Season 3 to serve as a counter to Early Armor Stacking; I'm aware that currently Flat Ar.Pen loses badly to Armor Stack. Sorry about that.

Basically: Is Early Armor Stacking going to continue to be a trump card against champs like Talon and Riven in Season 3? (e.g., Ninja Tabi + Chain Vest = Lane Over.)


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Oscariginal

Junior Member

11-07-2012

So this new Black Cleaver, we can now initiate fights with MF's ult and just shred the entire enemy team's armor values, correct?


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G1aD0S

Senior Member

11-07-2012

Wait
wait
wait

Garren's Spin and Pantheon's multi-Jabs was never able to proc onhit effects if I recall correctly,

if Garren's Spin can now proc BC JUST because it deals AD damage,

Can Sivir's Ricochet bounces now proc BC despite the tooltip saying only the first bounce procs onhit effects?

I am confuse


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LtEarthworm

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11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Zinroh View Post
Another riot poster stated that early items will have more lategame build options, to prevent you from being locked into a specific path every game, but also to be more adaptable to enemy items. What is there to stop a carry or AD caster from actively countering any defenses that the enemies build?

Example: You build early ArPen assuming the enemy tank will build armor, but they build health and regen, so you simply build your early ArPen into a more damage based lategame item, wich defeats the purpose of trying to build tanky in the first place. How will tanks stay competitive?
I think the idea is that early ArPen items will build into late game ArPen items, and early damage items will build into late game damage items. So if you get an early Brutalizer but they start stacking health, you're going to need a BF Sword.

Edit: I should add this is just how I see it. It may be that Brutalizer can build into more than just Last Whisper and Black Cleaver.


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Steve The Wizard

Junior Member

11-07-2012

I am really glad that Riot is so devoted to constantly changing the game and trying out new things. This keeps League of Legends fun and interesting even after playing hundreds of games. I can't wait for season 3 and the changes that are coming!


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FizzyPop71

Junior Member

11-07-2012

Will our tank-supports be seeing some love?

Champions that don't focus on damage like a carry, but are not fully about support healing, shielding, etc. such as blitz?

The main point i want to know is for gp10 items. As it stands each one builds into a single specific late game item (some of which are somewhat specific late game items). Will we be seeing more options for building our Heart of Gold or Kage's?


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Jooma

Senior Member

11-07-2012

Please Sir, tell me that you're going to do SOMETHING with Tiamat. It's the one single item that if you buy it, on any character, you are instantly labeled a troll. Everyone considers it a bad item and they don't even know why. It's become a preconceived notion now.

It's item racism is what it is. And I say, screw that! Let the Tiamat sit at the front of the bus!


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CragBlade

Senior Member

11-07-2012

Kha'Zix will absolutely destroy with this new BC item. Oh man.

Kha'Zix deals a high amount of physical damage with a percentage of their missing health added on to it. Now he gets to shred their armor as well? This pretty much destroys your "if they stack health but don;t build armor it won't work" argument.


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Lumara

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11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Silent Swordsme View Post
You do realise that by buffing black cleaver... this makes AD Tanky Champions much more overpowered
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

All this penetration talk is good and the new black cleaver item, but what about mages... being left in the dust as usual.. especially in dominion which is getting a fail version of the Rabadon Hat

The one on TT is better as it provides movement speed which is crucial on a map like Dominion.

Not to mention the one on TT is cheaper hovering below the 3k gold cap while the new nerfed one with only a measly 50 armor is hovering close to 4k gold and has no movement-speed what-so ever...
(once again a key and powerful stat for dominion mode)