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Sarusta

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Adjudicator

11-07-2012

Xypherious, I have a few questions (that are slightly tangential to the Armor Penetration discussion, so I'd understand if you don't address them just yet).

1.) Is Magic Penetration getting the same treatment as Armor Penetration (% before Flat)?
2.) Are we going to see more only-one-use items (Brutalizer, Stinger, etc.) get new upgrade paths?
3.) Are there going to be new items to diversify AD carry builds? Currently a large number of the AD Carries just grab IE/BT and PD, and by the end of the game, they almost always have the same items (IE, PD, BT, GA, LW, and TF instead of PD for Corki/Ezreal). It's starting to feel kinda stale.


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Prometheius

Senior Member

11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post

I'll make a note to look into that specific code interaction as Tiamat is weeird. Did you know Tiamat can splash magic damage *if* the autoattack is 100% magic? Tiamat is weeeird.
LIES. DD tested and TF card + poppy Q do not splash.


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Fat of the Land

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Senior Member

11-07-2012

What about flat reduction, will it apply before or after %penetration?


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ploki122

Senior Member

11-07-2012

Will you buff that strange gown-girl moving ward-skin? Because with all the awesome video effects added to her, I still don't see her as a viable 6th item... Even though she has basically 3 effects...


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tinkypls

Senior Member

11-07-2012

The black cleaver you listed seems awful strong. If you personally thought top lane was too snowbally, imagine how it's going to be now. Casters like Riven and Renekton were limited by the power armor stack had over them. They could do lots of damage, but were kept in check. Now you're giving them a way to play around their counter-like builds.


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2pudge1cup

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11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Nyx87 View Post
Talons Q and Urgot's E apply a physical DoT, so will that reapply the Black Cleaver passive each tick?
^reposting this because I'm really interested on the answer


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Xypherous

Systems Designer

11-07-2012
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Xyph - currently, if you get Last Whisper/Void Staff for 40% penetration, plus the same-resistance 10% penetration mastery in the Offense tree, you get 40% penetration, plus 10% of the remaining 60% armor/MR for 46% penetration. Can this be changed to be additive rather than multiplicative, so you get 50% reduction?

Or is this particular mastery no longer a thing?
No. Additive % Penetration is kind of a warped concept as it makes stacking exponentially more effective than you ever intend.

Every % point past 50% has over twice the returns that the first % point gives you. Every % point past 66% has over three times the return that the first % gives you.

Additive % Penetration is a great way to simply cause players to stack and invalidate armor. Armor would no longer have a point.

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What about flat reduction, will it apply before or after %penetration?
Reductions are on the opponent. They are always applied first.

Penetration is on you. It is always applied second.


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Maxnelin

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11-07-2012

A support item that drops a ward every 3 min and gives gp10 would be awesome. Why aren't there more items that drop wards? Have an item that starts with just a heart of gold then upgrades into an item that gives health, gp10 and drops a green ward every 3 min, then later upgrades to give health, cdr, small MS buff and dropps a pink every 3 min.


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Aflaack

Senior Member

11-07-2012

Does this mean that a champ like Xerath that gets a void staff will become a late-game monster if he gets an early lead?


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Lukiner

Senior Member

11-07-2012

so since Talon have 3 skills that scale with AD it will be worth building on him The Black Cleaver?

Q - 1 armor shred
W - 2 armor shred (since it hits two times)
E - 0 armor shred (jump without any dmg)
R - 2 armor shread (it hits two times

So Talon combo before his ult: W->E->AA->Q will make 4 stacks of shred? AND THEN BOOM ult and 5 shred?

if yes then IMA HAPPY
no more cloth armor/chain vest stacking vs Talon ^^