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SoulSlayerX

Senior Member

11-07-2012

Is there going to be active that silences the enemy champ for 1.0 sec (or even 0.5) sec that would really help going against champions like kat and fiddles (with some sort of trade off of course).

Also is the other tenacity items going to get buffed or will the stay the same. For example, some cooldown reduction on moonflair and a slight speed addition to the CandD, as well as some +health on them would make them a better alternative to going strait merc tread etc.


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iKnowThatFeel

Member

11-07-2012

lifesteal boots plz


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Arrevax

Senior Member

11-07-2012

Can burst casters have old Deathfire Grasp back? I know Evelynn abused it by comboing it with her ult, but that's one character. Veigar, Leblanc, etc are a little disadvantaged by losing one of their most commonly built items...


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Nerzhules

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11-07-2012

Will Warwick not like Black Cleaver anymore his ult used to apply all the stacks T-T


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Krufix

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11-07-2012

It doesn't seem like Talon would buy this for reasons already mentioned and explained.

It just strikes me as odd. Wasn't the whole "We want an AD Caster item!" hype cause by the realisation that Talon's best build was CDR boots, Last whisper and 4 Bloodthirsters.

It doesn't seem to have changed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamat View Post
Pantheon will be restored to his former glory.

Muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

*hides so Xypherous can continue his awesomeness*
Also it doesn't actually seem that good on Pantheon ether.

1. He lands from his ult (magic damage)

2. He stuns (magic damage)

2.5 He may get an auto attack off, however risk them getting unstuned and walking off (physical).

3. He channels his primary damage (3 physical attacks)

4. He throws his spear at them running away (physical).

That's only 4, maybe 5 stacks of the armor shred on them now and he can't benefit from it.


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AvariceSyn

Senior Member

11-07-2012

Black Cleaver is my Bread and Butter item on Vayne. Not liking the attack speed removal. And the potential higher cost. Though I'm confident there will be new AS AD items, there's no confirmation.


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Shimrra3

Senior Member

11-07-2012

This looks fantastic so far. Nice change.


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CashanDraven

Senior Member

11-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
Sure, I can hit this.

Armor Penetration Pre-Season 1 looked liked this:

1. You could start with 40+ armor penetration. (Recall, we nerfed flat armor penetration runes)
2. Last Whisper was overpowered. (+40% AS, +20 AD)
3. Green Elixir was overpowered (Gave roughly 50% more statistics.)

The problem with armor penetration in this setup was that flat armor penetration was the de-facto standard for your rune page as a carry, but Last Whisper was also the highest damage multiplier after your infinity edge, and Green Elixir could fill in for the critical strike.

This led to carry damage turning on at roughly 17 minutes with full armor penetration.

In today's world - look at the differences:

1. Green Elixir is weaker.
2. Flat armor penetration runes are weaker than before.
3. Last Whisper isn't triple multiplicative statistics, only double.

It's much harder to full-spec armor penetration *and* have all your other multiplicative statistics at once. Basically, we changed the armor penetration formula to hurt carries - but the actual problem with carries was the ease of their build up.
No matter what you do, Olaf is pleased. And Pantheon...


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theCarry Asuna

Junior Member

11-07-2012

Actually I am quite happy about the change, but champs like Garen and Wukong may become too strong with the new item.
Good thing is that AD casters will be much more useful late game
Bad thing? ADCs will be a bit under-powered, armor destroyed them, together with the debuffs of Frozen Heart, Thornmail and Randuin's Omen. They are too useless early game, now they can't even use Black Cleaver to fix that.


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desolation0

Member

11-07-2012

Just making sure, are we still planning around flat scaling on AP and multiplicative scaling on AD per item?