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lll Taeyeon lll

Member

11-07-2012

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Heartseeker Strike: Will trigger Black Cleaver three times in a cone, as it does physical damage to the target three times.
Judgment: Will trigger Black Cleaver up to 6 times, in a circle around him, as it does physical damage 6 times.


Is this a maximum for a number of targets? Or a maximum for one target? e.g. If you were garen and spinning gaily around two targets, would black cleaver proc three times on both or six times on both?


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SpiderEternal

Senior Member

11-07-2012

Siiiiiick.


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cokemonkey

Member

11-07-2012

Could we have some more spellvamp items?


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Critmaster Garen

Senior Member

11-07-2012

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Redwolf90:
What?

As in the first combination of items is more effective than the second combination?

Wording seemed odd.


it means stacking flat magic penetration with sorc boots + haunting guise + abyssal will be less effective than stacking both, flat and percentage, penetration with sorc boots + guise + void staff.

hes talking about the combination of the first group of items becoming less effective than the vombination of the second group of items.

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TSM Amplexus:
Is this a maximum for a number of targets? Or a maximum for one target? e.g. If you were garen and spinning gaily around two targets, would black cleaver proc three times on both or six times on both?


i guess garen can get up to 5 bc stacks in one spin to multiple targets. which will make him incredibly more useful for his team than he is now.

which is a good thing. pantheon already has the huge advantage of map presence over garen. so garen is going to do more damage and increase the damage potential for the rest of his team a lot more in return.


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Shadzar

Junior Member

11-07-2012

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Broney:
Regarding stacking items: Usually non-unique passives with stacks keep their stack max but apply double stacks per hit.

So you'd still max at 25%, but you'd get there faster.

If this is different I would expect a red comment eventually.

Each has a stack max, like stacking BTs each can stack up to 40, but with say 4, each gets one stack per kill, so if each BT had 0 stacks, and you kill a minion, all 4 each have 1 stack now.

should be the same for the cleaver right? each will have a max of 5 stacks, not a stack pool for all cleavers. this would be it functioning as UNIQUE, right?


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SwittyC

Junior Member

11-07-2012

Xyph, as stacking %pen is generally not very cost efficient would this item work well with champions such as Xin Zhao who already have %arm pen shredding (15% from passive).


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RexSaur

Senior Member

11-07-2012

How about a big AD + Spellvamp item for ad casters late game?

I hope we wont need to buy BT's even after this rework.


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doombotMECHA

Senior Member

11-07-2012

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Sh4d0w93:
So pretty much if you take a full frontal assault from Corki's gatling at rank 5 your going to loose 40 armor and 4 procs of black clever.. So -4 armor and then -5% armor for each proc.. Also add in that he can auto attack you during gatling gun.

with 10% true dps anyway


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Tenjix

Junior Member

11-07-2012

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IMelchorI:
the description of his ability says otherwise. firing his ult should work to apply multiple stacks at once.

it says "every time a blade passes through", not "every time the blades pass through".
Unfortunately the description isn't accurate. You can try it easily. Shadow Assault and use Cutthroat on an enemy outside of the blade-circle. Since Talon jumps behind a target with Cutthroat he would hit the enemy with 8 blades which would deal 2160 physical damage without items. But unfortunately it's not op and deals 270 only once.


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Adderx3

Senior Member

11-07-2012

if you were a lady id ask you to have my babies