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Skillshot changes (no longer for this patch)

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IS11d6327cb35cafc124891

Senior Member

11-01-2012

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and actually results in a very small effective difference between champions with different sizes, so it wonÂ’t impact the way you use skillshots


no it is a big cho gath nerf, and a big teemo buff. teemo will be impossible to hit !


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FeralPony

Live Balance Designer

11-01-2012

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Imclueless:
Statikk, what does this mean for Champions where a Skin gives them a different model size? There are quite a few Skins where the Champion is smaller than their Classic counterpart. I'm fairly sure Riot doesn't want Skins to have mechanical difference from something like this.


It is all calculated on a per-character basis. Skins do not impact this value. All skins will behave the same in respect to being hit by skillshots.


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SFG mAEtb0y

Senior Member

11-01-2012

Yes the fix finally!!!!!!!!!


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Nazzadan

Senior Member

11-01-2012

RIP in peace Cho


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WalkTheNikasaur

Member

11-01-2012

Except cho wants you to hit him, and not his carries. Sounds like a buff to me.


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Best Fizz EU

Senior Member

11-01-2012

Are you also fixing the bug of some skillshots going invisible or going right through people? (Not even just at close range, at any range this can happen)


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Statikk

Live Balance Designer

11-01-2012

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ChaoticFinal:
could you also look at the kassadin R->forcepulse bug?
it still casts backwards when you ulti then try to forcepulse immediately, which has caused many a missed kill

I talked to the engineer who fixed this bug initially and he saw no mistakes in the code that handles this.

Unfortunately this will require some deeper digging as to why this is occurring again.


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Heek

Senior Member

11-01-2012

Teemo just got that much more annoying.


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Statikk

Live Balance Designer

11-01-2012

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King Pikmin:
Are you also fixing the bug of some skillshots going invisible or going right through people? (Not even just at close range, at any range this can happen)

We actually finally got a recent consistent reproduction of this bug internally, so we can finally throw resources at this to try and fix it. This fix will not solve that problem, though hopefully we can get an engineer to look at it sooner or later once their hands aren't tied up.


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Wiksy

Associate Software Engineer

11-01-2012

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Statikk:
As part of this change, skillshots now fully take into account the model size of the target champion.


Some additional context on this: We found out that previously the math was flawed in that a champion's model size was taken into consideration only if the missile was hitting from the side, but not from the front. This means that previously if you shoot a skillshot right at an enemy, it would only hit when it hit the center of the target; but if you aim it at target's side it would hit if it touches the target's bounding circle. This was pretty inconsistent.

We changed it so that it will always use the target's bounding circle, but this means the potential reach of a skillshot is extended, and we have to slightly reduce the range of skillshots.