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Originally Posted by

**AtheistGuy1**
Two perfectly cohesive teams will have as close to a 50/50 chance as the system will allow.

Why is it that only two perfectly cohesive teams approach a 50% win-rate?

How come identically in-cohesive teams don't approach a 50% win-rate when playing against each other?

If we were to express cohesiveness as a percentage and let 100% cohesiveness represent "perfectly cohesive," then why is it that you will say that only when a 100% cohesive team plays a 100% cohesive team will they, after a large sample size of games, approach a 50% win rate?

Why won't an 80% cohesive team reach a 50% win rate over a large sample size of games against another 80% cohesive team?

Why won't a 60% cohesive team reach a 50% win rate over a large sample size of games against another 60% cohesive team?

Why won't a 40% cohesive team reach a 50% win rate over a large sample size of games against another 40% cohesive team?

Why won't a 20% cohesive team reach a 50% win rate over a large sample size of games against another 20% cohesive team?

I think these are fair questions that I'm asking you to answer, because common sense says that all of these conditions should meet this standard, and you're saying no, and saying "You don't have data." We're discussing theory. You use theory to try explaining every possible case.

Even in science, you first posit a hypothesis, then you test your hypothesis. And you test it more and more and more, and eventually it becomes a law (like the law of large numbers), but first scientists will have a philosophical discussion to come to a reasonable, testable hypothesis.

We're not to the testing stage yet. We're in the philosophical discussion to come to a hypothesis stage right now. I can make a logical argument that my case exists. I don't even need to worry about collecting data for it, because you can't even make a logical argument that my case doesn't exist.

EDIT: By the way, if you still disagree with me here, then I think you're about to walk yourself into a trap that still disproves Elo hell anyway. Just a fair warning.