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Joe Krake

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10-25-2012

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No duh. That's how invades go in Summoner's Rift too.
true enough, but this is 3v3. And those alters are extremely important. IN summoners you may lose a buff, but you can still come back. IN the new TT they now have both alters meaning they get more money faster and now have the buff for at the very least 90 seconds. And chances are if they did it to you in the first place they can damn well do it again later on because they've been getting massive amounts of gold and still have the buff.


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radajin

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10-25-2012

i think riot wanted to change somthing that i havn't seen any updates in almost 3 years i've been playing, the champions have changed, but not the map. it needed a lift.


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Joe Krake

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10-25-2012

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That's when you learn to predict people. And wait. What do you mean "they have zero map awareness because there's no wards?" The winning team doesn't suddenly get wards. They're playing under the same rules.

They can get "wards" f they have teemo r cait But even then you now see the plight.

One team takes the jungle and most of the times it's end game. They have both alters meaning more money and the buff while the other team just falls behind. Not like they'll be able to fight you back since they haven't been farming as long nor did they have the extra gold form the alters.


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fiddlesticksssss

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10-25-2012

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That's when you learn to predict people. And wait. What do you mean "they have zero map awareness because there's no wards?" The winning team doesn't suddenly get wards. They're playing under the same rules.
Right now the strongest strat i have seen myself that wins almost every game is Darius, Renekton or tryndamere, and ap teemo. You can bully everyone in the game out of the jungle, and keep map awareness. You can own jungle, and do to the cc you can easily shut down lanes and gank far easier than other champs. So that means Darius "god tier solo queue champ" tryndamere "god tier solo queue" and renekton "underplayed tier 1 solo queue" champs are still more than viable and still easily dominate on this map. Nothing has changed about the solo queue viability other than blackfiretorch doing 5% to much damage.


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TamOcello

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10-25-2012

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They can get "wards" f they have teemo r cait But even then you now see the plight.
And you can't play around that? There's ZERO answers? There's not a SINGLE thing that can be done about those?


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GODSTATUS

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10-25-2012

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And there's the problem. one team just dominates the other because they have zero map awareness because there's no wards.
what

theres a problem if theres a skill difference between one team and the other?


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Joe Krake

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10-25-2012

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And you can't play around that? There's ZERO answers? There's not a SINGLE thing that can be done about those?
you should probably read the rest of my post :V

it goes beyond just map awareness.

And yes there's way to deal with it. But it comes at a price that only counts towards you.

You have to buy an oracles (which waste money going towards countering the other team) and then have somebody on mushroom duty which means they have to go into the jungle (that the enemy has complete control of) to beat mushrooms (which cost nothing but mana) all the while the enemy knows where you are because you're beating mushrooms.


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Joe Krake

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10-25-2012

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what

theres a problem if theres a skill difference between one team and the other?

when one character has a skill that gives you map awareness in a mode that took out the best tool for awareness that can be used by everyone, then yes it is a problem.


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GODSTATUS

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10-25-2012

did u want a game where the things going for both teams are ceteris paribus and are unchanging

or actual variables in the game. or spend 250 on an oracles and in exchange theres no more invisible **** you have to deal with. its a pretty good exchange imo


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Joe Krake

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10-25-2012

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did u want a game where the things going for both teams are ceteris paribus and are unchanging

or actual variables in the game. or spend 250 on an oracles and in exchange theres no more invisible **** you have to deal with. its a pretty good exchange imo
here's what I said before in regards to that issue


"it goes beyond just map awareness.

And yes there's way to deal with it. But it comes at a price that only counts towards you.

You have to buy an oracles (which waste money going towards countering the other team) and then have somebody on mushroom duty which means they have to go into the jungle (that the enemy has complete control of) to beat mushrooms (which cost nothing but mana) all the while the enemy knows where you are because you're beating mushrooms."