%pen before flat pen in S3 confirmed

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Ka0tiK

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10-25-2012

I would hope that there will be some itemization changes to go along with the arpen changes. A few more efficient/useful items that have both health AND a particular resist on them would help some. Might also see a percentage nerf on LW/Void to go along with any change to how pen works.


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BeefJerkyHunter

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10-25-2012

I'm a bit worried about this change especially when you've got Melee vs. Ranged.


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otirruborez

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10-25-2012

not sure this buff was needed. lw and void were already really good just with the enemy having 100 resistances.

void staff needed the buff a lot more than last whisper, that's for sure.


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Mad Suppordle

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10-25-2012

... well that is some derpy hurdurpage.

So anyone with a % pen or shred skill now does true damage to everyone? GJ buffing Jayce and Darius past cheesecake tier :/


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Nyx87

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10-25-2012

Just wait it out, the change hasn't happened and it seems like they are taking a sledgehammer to itemization(supposedly). So we don't fully know what is happening yet.


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Mad Suppordle

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10-25-2012

No matter what hammers of justice they take to items, that's a major buff to the free % pen certain champs get.


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DiscworldDeath

Senior Member

10-25-2012

Very few champions have free penetration (Xerath, Olaf, Darius?), either flat or percentile, for all the others it's reduction, which applies before penetration anyway.

Also, they're reworking items, best see things as a whole, maybe Last Whisper/Void Staff will no longer exist, or give more AD/AP but halve their reduction stats...

Also, you'll note Phreak only specified AD flat out. Might be AP won't get the same treatment, or its bevvy of flat reduction items will get shrunk down.


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konfetarius

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10-25-2012

Zimike. No more surviving getting Talon'ed for you!


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Redenbacher

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10-25-2012

I think it's safe to assume that sweeping itemization changes will be followed with champion changes. Neither are set in stone.


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DiscworldDeath

Senior Member

10-25-2012

Meddler just said that yes, values of various items/abilities will be changed, as the original values were decided with the fact it's flat>percentile, which they're now changing.