[Official Petition] Let new TT be a new map by itself.

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DirtyNinjah

Senior Member

11-26-2012

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Originally Posted by Volibar View Post
Hi all, just wanted to drop by and say a few things. To start off, we certainly have been reading this thread and watching it over the past few weeks. I haven't been posting here because I wanted to see the overall sentiment from around the community about the new Twisted Treeline after people have had a chance to play it and experience it for themselves in a meaningful way.

I've also addressed some of TT topics on our Reddit AMA we did a few days ago, but I'm happy to discuss here as well

When we started looking at Twisted Treeline really intensely earlier this year (around the start of 2011), there were many issues that the community had identified. Among the worst were turtling, the meta being pretty stale, and there were a pretty big number of exploits that had way too much of an effect on the game. (You probably already know this, though.)

So, when we sat down to try and solve the problems, the solution space we started in was small - can we make a few simple changes here or there? What if we make a few item changes, etc.? Those helped, but ultimately we started expanding what we tried, but at the same time we were seeing better resolution to those problems. We adjusted the layout, sometimes making small changes, sometimes trying things we thankfully didn't ship (and we tried a TON). In the end, the map we created and all of the changes that have come with it was our answer to the problems that have plagued the map for a very long time. Our goal has and will always be to allow the fast pace, high action, small team feel that TT should represent to flourish.

As for the fate of old TT, right now we have no plans to add it back into custom games. we wanted to make sure that we don't split the focus of our players for each game type. For the same reason we probably won't ever create a 5v5 map that's really similar to Summoner's Rift, we didn't want to split the TT community between two maps. There's really no winner in that scenario, as there are two maps to support, two metas to maintain, and overall a really small delta between the two. We'd rather have you and our teams focused on one, working together to make it great as opposed to two, having neither of them living up to their full potential. If competitive TT is also going to take off, having two maps, even in custom games, is detrimental.

Let's be clear though, this is still Twisted Treeline. It is a bit different and sometimes change can be a little disruptive, but when we took a look at what we had on our hands after thousands of playtests, we wanted to release the new TT to you and get feedback as part of our Beta process. That's still ongoing, and we're going to continue to listen to your feedback and make changes going forward, ensuring that TT has the support it deserves.
IMO what you posted is ridiculously stupid, are you serious? Okay so lets murder the old tt ( sure it had issues but why waste a good map) so we can give the new tt all of our attention because you cant do that if you announce that the old TT will be there for those who want it but it wont be worked on anymore? Or is that too much effort since you obviously need all yours to support the new possibly more unbalanced TT. And no its not still twisted treeline its different, its pretty ridiculous you didnt name it something else because its not Twisted Treeline anymore and for what you said about listening? Listen to the thread alot of people want the old TT to be here as well as the new one. Also you were saying something about competitive TT, after seeing the new TT's state i doubt it'll ever launch competitive play considering the other one wasnt able to launch competitive play. By the way, Signed.
Almost forgot to say about splitting the community up, thats the dumbest part of that post so dont worry about splitting the community you know why? You already did that, most of the old TT fans have moved to 5's now because the new TT is junk especially to them. So dont worry about doing what you already did.


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GON the Mage Guy

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11-26-2012

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Originally Posted by DirtyNinjah View Post
IMO what you posted is ridiculously stupid, are you serious? Okay so lets murder the old tt ( sure it had issues but why waste a good map) so we can give the new tt all of our attention because you cant do that if you announce that the old TT will be there for those who want it but it wont be worked on anymore? Or is that too much effort since you obviously need all yours to support the new possibly more unbalanced TT. And no its not still twisted treeline its different, its pretty ridiculous you didnt name it something else because its not Twisted Treeline anymore and for what you said about listening? Listen to the thread alot of people want the old TT to be here as well as the new one. Also you were saying something about competitive TT, after seeing the new TT's state i doubt it'll ever launch competitive play considering the other one wasnt able to launch competitive play. By the way, Signed.
Almost forgot to say about splitting the community up, thats the dumbest part of that post so dont worry about splitting the community you know why? You already did that, most of the old TT fans have moved to 5's now because the new TT is junk especially to them. So dont worry about doing what you already did.
Psst...Calling them stupid isn't the first step to trying to convince them. It isn't ANY step.


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Krizzen

Member

11-26-2012

But we want more strategy on this map, no wards, pretty much no farming phase, its more like an arena game.


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PAPA Peripheral

Junior Member

11-26-2012

Signed. I hope to see this! ^.^


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Nykidemus

Senior Member

11-26-2012

/sign of great justice


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DirtyNinjah

Senior Member

11-26-2012

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Psst...Calling them stupid isn't the first step to trying to convince them. It isn't ANY step.
Im not trying to convince them because it'd be a wasted effort and from the post that that guy posted it really just said to me; Hey we've made a new TT and we dont care if you dont like it your going to take it. It was just me giving my opinion "IMO". Also I dont see how it wasnt a pretty stupid post?


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Letkhar

Senior Member

11-26-2012

Signed. The new map is terrible.


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Knightdead

Junior Member

11-27-2012

Signed, i have a big preference for the old 3v3.
Just spend a long time trying to find my password back on the na servers, to sign it, going back to EUW, byyyyye.


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knightex50

Senior Member

11-27-2012

riot will eventually have to do something about this keep it up!
i already signed


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batchynator

Senior Member

11-27-2012

Nope.